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Bill Marett
Mon, Jan 26, 2009 3:10 PM

I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when
using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or
something like that].  2 questions:  1 - how to I tell if the filers that I
have require the insert?  2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter without
the insert?  Thanks.

Bill Marett
'46 Jefferson
"Travis McGee"
Nashville, TN

I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or something like that]. 2 questions: 1 - how to I tell if the filers that I have require the insert? 2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter without the insert? Thanks. Bill Marett '46 Jefferson "Travis McGee" Nashville, TN
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David Hart
Mon, Jan 26, 2009 3:31 PM

You should go to the Racor web site. They have pictures of the housing and by comparing the pictures to the inside of your 500 housing you will be able to tell.
If you need the spacer and are not using it you are bypassing fuel.
The kit is # 152 and the spacers are free. If you need one it goes on first, then the filter.
Racor tech support is 800-344-3286.

Dave Hart
Lake Ontario

I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when
using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or
something like that].  2 questions:  1 - how to I tell if the filers that I
have require the insert?  2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter without
the insert?  Thanks.

Bill Marett
'46 Jefferson
"Travis McGee"
Nashville, TN

You should go to the Racor web site. They have pictures of the housing and by comparing the pictures to the inside of your 500 housing you will be able to tell. If you need the spacer and are not using it you are bypassing fuel. The kit is # 152 and the spacers are free. If you need one it goes on first, then the filter. Racor tech support is 800-344-3286. Dave Hart Lake Ontario I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or something like that]. 2 questions: 1 - how to I tell if the filers that I have require the insert? 2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter without the insert? Thanks. Bill Marett '46 Jefferson "Travis McGee" Nashville, TN
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Pascal Gademer
Mon, Jan 26, 2009 3:32 PM

if you don't use the spacer, some fuel will bypass the element and clog your
secondary...  friend of mine had that happened on a genny... missed the
spacer and started cloging the secondary. Wehn the genny started acting up,
the primary looked clean, but the secondary was black.

it's needed on the older 500 series which have a fuel outlet near the top of
the tube, above the element if you dont' use the spacer.  teh racor
insteructions included with elements show a picture of the filter, looking
from the top, if the the tube at the bottom has flat top surfaces, you need
the spacer.  if it's not flat, you dont' need it.

i'm sure that diagram is on the racor site if the filters you have didn't
come with it and the spacer.

pascal
miami, fl

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Marett" Bill.Marett@ag.tn.gov
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Subject: T&T: Racor inserts

I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when
using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or
something like that].  2 questions:  1 - how to I tell if the filers that
I
have require the insert?  2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter
without
the insert?  Thanks.

Bill Marett
'46 Jefferson
"Travis McGee"
Nashville, TN


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if you don't use the spacer, some fuel will bypass the element and clog your secondary... friend of mine had that happened on a genny... missed the spacer and started cloging the secondary. Wehn the genny started acting up, the primary looked clean, but the secondary was black. it's needed on the older 500 series which have a fuel outlet near the top of the tube, above the element if you dont' use the spacer. teh racor insteructions included with elements show a picture of the filter, looking from the top, if the the tube at the bottom has flat top surfaces, you need the spacer. if it's not flat, you dont' need it. i'm sure that diagram is on the racor site if the filters you have didn't come with it and the spacer. pascal miami, fl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Marett" <Bill.Marett@ag.tn.gov> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:10 AM Subject: T&T: Racor inserts >I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when > using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or > something like that]. 2 questions: 1 - how to I tell if the filers that > I > have require the insert? 2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter > without > the insert? Thanks. > > Bill Marett > '46 Jefferson > "Travis McGee" > Nashville, TN > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Garry Haferbier
Mon, Jan 26, 2009 3:47 PM

Bill, head to the Racor webiste for more information, but they sent me p/n
15211, spacer kit for my 500's. I use 2 micron and they changed from brown to
tan,and there is a noticeable conical indention in their bottoms where the
spacer sits. I dont know if this applies to the rest of the series....GEH

Garry & Sherry Haferbier
1982 MS1 #724
Barnegat, N.J.

Bill, head to the Racor webiste for more information, but they sent me p/n 15211, spacer kit for my 500's. I use 2 micron and they changed from brown to tan,and there is a noticeable conical indention in their bottoms where the spacer sits. I dont know if this applies to the rest of the series....GEH Garry & Sherry Haferbier 1982 MS1 #724 Barnegat, N.J.
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Chuck and Susan
Mon, Jan 26, 2009 4:00 PM

Bill If you Racor is from 87 you will need the insert. If the housing was
newer the filter would not fit with the insert. The problems that can be
caused will most likely get caught by you engine fuel filters. If dirt and
water is allowed to pass through to the engine you would have injector and
injector pump problems. The engine would be hard to start or idle rough and
run rough without being able to get to top end. The inserts should come in the
package with the filters. Chuck

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--- On Mon, 1/26/09, Bill Marett Bill.Marett@ag.tn.gov wrote:

I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when
using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or
something like that].  2 questions:  1 - how to I tell if the filers that I
have require the insert?  2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter without
the insert?  Thanks.

Bill Marett

Bill If you Racor is from 87 you will need the insert. If the housing was newer the filter would not fit with the insert. The problems that can be caused will most likely get caught by you engine fuel filters. If dirt and water is allowed to pass through to the engine you would have injector and injector pump problems. The engine would be hard to start or idle rough and run rough without being able to get to top end. The inserts should come in the package with the filters. Chuck To follow our adventures, go to http://trawler-beach-house.blogspot.com/ http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/ --- On Mon, 1/26/09, Bill Marett <Bill.Marett@ag.tn.gov> wrote: I read that older Racors [mine are '87] required an insert [washer?] when using newer filters or else the filters would allow dirty fuel through [or something like that]. 2 questions: 1 - how to I tell if the filers that I have require the insert? 2- what are symptoms if I am using a filter without the insert? Thanks. Bill Marett
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Parvey
Tue, Jan 27, 2009 2:41 AM

I spoke to Parker about this about a year and a half ago. If in doubt they
suggested putting the insert in as it won't hurt anything. They have an 800
number you can call with questions (sorry I don't have it handy). Their
technical support is very good.
Regards,

--Jim

I spoke to Parker about this about a year and a half ago. If in doubt they suggested putting the insert in as it won't hurt anything. They have an 800 number you can call with questions (sorry I don't have it handy). Their technical support is very good. Regards, --Jim