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ron barr
Tue, Jul 17, 2007 3:12 AM

Hello Henry!

Well I am not exactly a computer whiz either and I am a few miles further
down the road than you are thus it shouldn't be too difficult!!!
However it goes like this: SNIP is simply a piece of the message to which
you are replying and posted for clarification purposes. Assuming you are
using something like Outlook - highlight a relevant small part of the
original message and "copy" (right button or control C). The copy goes into
"Memory". Open a new email message type SNIP then "paste" (right button or
Control V). That's it! Cutting and pasting is really easy in the new Outlook
2007 which I am using. You can copy several different passages to the
Clipboard and just click on them to put them where you want when you open
the new email you are going to send - they will appear on one side of the
screen. In 2007 the clipboard is displayed from the "Format Text" tab at the
top of the screen. Hope that was clear??

I'll post to the list

Ron Barr
Newport RI 02840

-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Quigley [mailto:quigley@consolidated.net]

Ron,
That's a good suggestion but you need to tell the list how to "snip."
I never heard of it before about 10 days ago; I am 67, not a computer whiz
and still don't really understand what "snip" is much less how to do it.
Based on the profile of trawler owners I suspect I am not alone.
Cordially
Henry Quigley

Hello Henry! Well I am not exactly a computer whiz either and I am a few miles further down the road than you are thus it shouldn't be too difficult!!! However it goes like this: SNIP is simply a piece of the message to which you are replying and posted for clarification purposes. Assuming you are using something like Outlook - highlight a relevant small part of the original message and "copy" (right button or control C). The copy goes into "Memory". Open a new email message type SNIP then "paste" (right button or Control V). That's it! Cutting and pasting is really easy in the new Outlook 2007 which I am using. You can copy several different passages to the Clipboard and just click on them to put them where you want when you open the new email you are going to send - they will appear on one side of the screen. In 2007 the clipboard is displayed from the "Format Text" tab at the top of the screen. Hope that was clear?? I'll post to the list Ron Barr Newport RI 02840 -----Original Message----- From: Henry Quigley [mailto:quigley@consolidated.net] Ron, That's a good suggestion but you need to tell the list how to "snip." I never heard of it before about 10 days ago; I am 67, not a computer whiz and still don't really understand what "snip" is much less how to do it. Based on the profile of trawler owners I suspect I am not alone. Cordially Henry Quigley
LH
Leo Hill
Tue, Jul 17, 2007 3:46 AM

On 7/16/07, ron barr rwhb@msn.com wrote:

Hello Henry!

Well I am not exactly a computer whiz either and I am a few miles further
down the road than you are thus it shouldn't be too difficult!!!
However it goes like this: SNIP is simply a piece of the message to which
you are replying and posted for clarification purposes. [snippage
occurred]

Ron,

Actually that's the general gist, but not exactly right.

[Snip] is a common courtesy technique to remove extraneous portions of the
message that are not relevant to your reply.

"If quoting large sections of discussion, particularly in newsgroup
discussions, it is recommended to trim the message such that only a taste of
the original (a reminder) is left  even if this means leaving a sentence
hanging. The chunks of quoted text are typically "trimmed" (leaving only the
relevant quoted material), and some refer to this style as "trim-posting".
Paragraphs which are not replied to are frequently "snipped" completely. In
such a circumstance it is customary to append an indicator, usually in the
form of a square bracketed tag to the effect of [snipped], [trimmed], or
simply [...]. This also prevents signature
blockshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block,
free email service ads, and corporate disclaimers from piling up in a
growing useless "tail" at the end.

If the precise nature of the quote is not immediately apparent from the
remaining text, it is polite to include a brief 'subject' text in the
bracket, so the original author's words are not misunderstood by readers
unfamiliar with the original."

Additionally, I am "bottom quoting" this reply and
http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html has something to say about
top posting and bottom posting.

"Top posting is the practice of placing the reply text to an
emailhttp://what-is-what.com/what_is/email.htmlat the top of the
message being returned, with the original message quoted
below. Although most mail clients encourage top posting by automatically
placing the cursor at the beginning of the message
editorhttp://what-is-what.com/what_is/text_editor.html,
the practice is often considered rude and against the rules of netiquette (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette). In fact, RFC 1855 specifically
states that the quoted message be above the reply text (and trimmed
appropriately). While not binding, the RFC conventions are considered the
de-facto standard in netiquette and non-compliance is regarded as arrogant
and rude in many veteran
Internethttp://what-is-what.com/what_is/internet.htmlcommunities."

So the bottom line is - for common courtesy's sake - quote a relevant, yet
minimal amount, of the message you're replying to at the top of the message
and then put your reply underneath.

If there are several passages that you are replying to, do this same
procedure - minimal quote and then your reply - for each point you are
responding to.

Best,

Leo

On 7/16/07, ron barr <rwhb@msn.com> wrote: > > Hello Henry! > > Well I am not exactly a computer whiz either and I am a few miles further > down the road than you are thus it shouldn't be too difficult!!! > However it goes like this: SNIP is simply a piece of the message to which > you are replying and posted for clarification purposes. [snippage > occurred] Ron, Actually that's the general gist, but not exactly right. [Snip] is a common courtesy technique to remove extraneous portions of the message that are not relevant to your reply. >From Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style "If quoting large sections of discussion, particularly in newsgroup discussions, it is recommended to trim the message such that only a taste of the original (a reminder) is left  even if this means leaving a sentence hanging. The chunks of quoted text are typically "trimmed" (leaving only the relevant quoted material), and some refer to this style as "trim-posting". Paragraphs which are not replied to are frequently "snipped" completely. In such a circumstance it is customary to append an indicator, usually in the form of a square bracketed tag to the effect of *[snipped]*, *[trimmed]*, or simply *[...]*. This also prevents signature blocks<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signature_block>, free email service ads, and corporate disclaimers from piling up in a growing useless "tail" at the end. If the precise nature of the quote is not immediately apparent from the remaining text, it is polite to include a brief 'subject' text in the bracket, so the original author's words are not misunderstood by readers unfamiliar with the original." Additionally, I am "bottom quoting" this reply and http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html has something to say about top posting and bottom posting. "Top posting is the practice of placing the reply text to an email<http://what-is-what.com/what_is/email.html>at the top of the message being returned, with the original message quoted below. Although most mail clients encourage top posting by automatically placing the cursor at the beginning of the message editor<http://what-is-what.com/what_is/text_editor.html>, the practice is often considered rude and against the rules of netiquette ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette). In fact, RFC 1855 specifically states that the quoted message be above the reply text (and trimmed appropriately). While not binding, the RFC conventions are considered the de-facto standard in netiquette and non-compliance is regarded as arrogant and rude in many veteran Internet<http://what-is-what.com/what_is/internet.html>communities." So the bottom line is - for common courtesy's sake - quote a relevant, yet minimal amount, of the message you're replying to at the top of the message and then put your reply underneath. If there are several passages that you are replying to, do this same procedure - minimal quote and then your reply - for each point you are responding to. Best, Leo