Re: [PCW] Jones Act Waivers

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Mark
Tue, Oct 23, 2007 3:46 PM

I haven't kept up with any changes, but in 2004/5 I applied for a Jones Act Waiver for a 32' power cat that was built in Australia that I wanted to charter in California.  It took a little while to process, but it came through after the fee was paid as Tim said - no calls to congressmen required!  My memory is that you apply for a certain geographical area, they publish the requests for waivers in the federal register and they give competitors time to object that you would hurt their business.  If no one objects, it goes through.

I originally applied for the whole west coast of the US, which includes Alaska.  The administrator contacted me and said that if I didn't really plan to operate in AK I shouldn't apply so broadly since they'd had an increased number of objection in SE Alaska at that time.

http://www.marad.dot.gov/programs/smallvessel/index.html

Mark

----- Original Message ----
From: Georgs Kolesnikovs georgs@powercatamaranworld.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:09:46 AM
Subject: Re: [PCW] go-anywhere power cats (Robert Deering), Jones Act

Bob, John and others--

Hold your horses on the Jones Act until I get an update as to the
facts in 2007.

I believe the recap by Tim Askins describes the situation, but I'll
doublecheck.

--Georgs

Thanks for the pricing clarification.  Better, but still far out of my
range.

I'm no Jones Act expert, but I understand that it was passed as

legislation

to protect American ship builders from low-priced foreign

competitors...you

know, like you.

The ruling basically says that a ship (boat) for hire may not

originate in

one US port and terminate in another unless its hull is US-built.

That's

why for many years cruise ships (foreign hulls) running to Alaska

departed

from Vancouver BC instead of Seattle.  I understand that some of the

ships

now depart from Seattle so they must have achieved an exemption since
Seattle was missing out on a lot of tourist revenue.

I'm not aware of many charter boat exemptions.  The Grand Banks

Northwest

question relates to bare-boat charters I believe which must not be

subject

to the Jones Act.

Certainly most people buying a new $1M+ 55 ft boat aren't thinking

charter.

It's the people that buy the boat from them that start to fall into

that

group.  But buying expensive boats isn't an inherently rational

process

anyway, so it's unreasonable to expect most buyers to give resale

value much

consideration.

Bob Deering
Juneau, Alaska


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I haven't kept up with any changes, but in 2004/5 I applied for a Jones Act Waiver for a 32' power cat that was built in Australia that I wanted to charter in California. It took a little while to process, but it came through after the fee was paid as Tim said - no calls to congressmen required! My memory is that you apply for a certain geographical area, they publish the requests for waivers in the federal register and they give competitors time to object that you would hurt their business. If no one objects, it goes through. I originally applied for the whole west coast of the US, which includes Alaska. The administrator contacted me and said that if I didn't really plan to operate in AK I shouldn't apply so broadly since they'd had an increased number of objection in SE Alaska at that time. http://www.marad.dot.gov/programs/smallvessel/index.html Mark ----- Original Message ---- From: Georgs Kolesnikovs <georgs@powercatamaranworld.com> To: Power Catamaran List <power-catamaran@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:09:46 AM Subject: Re: [PCW] go-anywhere power cats (Robert Deering), Jones Act Bob, John and others-- Hold your horses on the Jones Act until I get an update as to the facts in 2007. I believe the recap by Tim Askins describes the situation, but I'll doublecheck. --Georgs >Thanks for the pricing clarification. Better, but still far out of my >range. > >I'm no Jones Act expert, but I understand that it was passed as legislation >to protect American ship builders from low-priced foreign competitors...you >know, like you. > >The ruling basically says that a ship (boat) for hire may not originate in >one US port and terminate in another unless its hull is US-built. That's >why for many years cruise ships (foreign hulls) running to Alaska departed >from Vancouver BC instead of Seattle. I understand that some of the ships >now depart from Seattle so they must have achieved an exemption since >Seattle was missing out on a lot of tourist revenue. > >I'm not aware of many charter boat exemptions. The Grand Banks Northwest >question relates to bare-boat charters I believe which must not be subject >to the Jones Act. > >Certainly most people buying a new $1M+ 55 ft boat aren't thinking charter. >It's the people that buy the boat from them that start to fall into that >group. But buying expensive boats isn't an inherently rational process >anyway, so it's unreasonable to expect most buyers to give resale value much >consideration. > > >Bob Deering >Juneau, Alaska >_______________________________________________ >Power-Catamaran Mailing List _______________________________________________ Power-Catamaran Mailing List