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ICS525 Battery Top Singnal Generator - Frequency Synthesizer-Translator, Test Transmitter, (Crystal Replacement?)

BC
Brooke Clarke
Fri, May 5, 2006 4:52 AM

Hi:

Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got
a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks.  Well it's been
less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the
stock version.  There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine
pitch Surface Mount Parts, see:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml
Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out)  a couple of 10 position
SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a
14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator.
There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of
the DIP oscillator.  BNC output connector.  See more at:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG
http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short

Data Sheet for ICS525:
http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf

When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the
high speed -02 version, see:
http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html

For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might
have numerous uses.
Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke

--
w/Java http://www.PRC68.com
w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml
http://www.precisionclock.com

Hi: Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks. Well it's been less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the stock version. There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine pitch Surface Mount Parts, see: http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out) a couple of 10 position SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a 14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator. There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of the DIP oscillator. BNC output connector. See more at: http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG <http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short> Data Sheet for ICS525: http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the high speed -02 version, see: http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might have numerous uses. Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell? Have Fun, Brooke Clarke -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com
G
Glenn
Fri, May 5, 2006 10:14 AM

I'd definately be interested in using something like this as a crystal
replacement. I have a pair of old SGC 712 HF radios on the self, waiting
for something like this. I'd also be very interested in a serial
controlled version.

cheers,
glenn

I'd definately be interested in using something like this as a crystal replacement. I have a pair of old SGC 712 HF radios on the self, waiting for something like this. I'd also be very interested in a serial controlled version. cheers, glenn
DB
Dave Brown
Fri, May 5, 2006 11:24 AM

I have an R3211G1112 here that is apparently a GT Plus.  Can someone
translate to what options this has?
Tks-
DaveB, NZ

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John Ackermann N8UR
Fri, May 5, 2006 1:01 PM

Glenn wrote:

I'd definately be interested in using something like this as a crystal
replacement. I have a pair of old SGC 712 HF radios on the self, waiting
for something like this. I'd also be very interested in a serial
controlled version.

I've been looking into the ICS525 chip myself, and coincidentally talked
yesterday to one of their engineers.  He warned me that these chips are
designed as clock replacements, not RF oscillators, and the phase noise
would likely be unacceptable for analog RF uses.

John

Glenn wrote: > I'd definately be interested in using something like this as a crystal > replacement. I have a pair of old SGC 712 HF radios on the self, waiting > for something like this. I'd also be very interested in a serial > controlled version. I've been looking into the ICS525 chip myself, and coincidentally talked yesterday to one of their engineers. He warned me that these chips are designed as clock replacements, not RF oscillators, and the phase noise would likely be unacceptable for analog RF uses. John
G
Glenn
Fri, May 5, 2006 1:18 PM

RWarner@synergy-gps.com writes:

The [UT+] receivers with a P/N that ends with a "2" have v2.2 firmware

The last "1" means it has a right angle antenna connector. (On the UT+)

I think the first "2" means it has an on-board lithium battery.

The first "3" might refer to the GT series. I have a UT+, which is
R5122U1112.
(straight ANT connector, no battery)

Hope this helps.

cheers,
glenn

Dave Brown wrote:

I have an R3211G1112 here that is apparently a GT Plus.  Can someone
translate to what options this has?
Tks-
DaveB, NZ

RWarner@synergy-gps.com writes: The [UT+] receivers with a P/N that ends with a "2" have v2.2 firmware The last "1" means it has a right angle antenna connector. (On the UT+) I think the first "2" means it has an on-board lithium battery. The first "3" might refer to the GT series. I have a UT+, which is R5122U1112. (straight ANT connector, no battery) Hope this helps. cheers, glenn Dave Brown wrote: >I have an R3211G1112 here that is apparently a GT Plus. Can someone >translate to what options this has? >Tks- >DaveB, NZ > >
CH
Chuck Harris
Fri, May 5, 2006 3:49 PM

Hi Brooke,

Awhile back I was looking into SMD rework stations, and I looked pretty
carefully at the Quakko stuff.

I didn't like the 850D because it was not servo controlled for temperature,
and the air flow adjustment was a blind guess.  So I bought the Aoyue 2738 directly
from the factory.  I liked it so much that I now sell the units.  The 2738 is
designed to provide the extra power needed to handle lead-free solder, and as
a result, it has a 70w digitally temperature controlled fume free soldering iron
as part of the station.  The soldering iron takes around 5 seconds to come up
to full heat, so there is no need to leave it running all the time.

The hot air rework section is digitally servo controlled for temperature, and
digitally controlled (non servo) for the air supply.  To make it possible to
do repeatable work, there is a floating ball air flow meter on the front panel.
The air flow meter allows you to take into account variables such as the different
restrictions caused by the different hot air nozzles.

Best work with a rework station is done using an underboard preheater.  The
preheater takes the board up to 100C, or so, which all SMD parts can handle.

-Chuck Harris

While my stocks last, I can make the Aoyue 2738 available to this group for
$235 plus shipping.  That includes the rework station, 6 nozzles, a vacuum
tweezer, a chip lifter (popper), a silicone pad, a soldering iron holder,
and a fume extractor for the soldering iron.  Visa and MC accepted.

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got
a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks.  Well it's been
less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the
stock version.  There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine
pitch Surface Mount Parts, see:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml
Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out)  a couple of 10 position
SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a
14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator.
There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of
the DIP oscillator.  BNC output connector.  See more at:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG
http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short

Data Sheet for ICS525:
http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf

When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the
high speed -02 version, see:
http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html

For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might
have numerous uses.
Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke

Hi Brooke, Awhile back I was looking into SMD rework stations, and I looked pretty carefully at the Quakko stuff. I didn't like the 850D because it was not servo controlled for temperature, and the air flow adjustment was a blind guess. So I bought the Aoyue 2738 directly from the factory. I liked it so much that I now sell the units. The 2738 is designed to provide the extra power needed to handle lead-free solder, and as a result, it has a 70w digitally temperature controlled fume free soldering iron as part of the station. The soldering iron takes around 5 seconds to come up to full heat, so there is no need to leave it running all the time. The hot air rework section is digitally servo controlled for temperature, and digitally controlled (non servo) for the air supply. To make it possible to do repeatable work, there is a floating ball air flow meter on the front panel. The air flow meter allows you to take into account variables such as the different restrictions caused by the different hot air nozzles. Best work with a rework station is done using an underboard preheater. The preheater takes the board up to 100C, or so, which all SMD parts can handle. -Chuck Harris While my stocks last, I can make the Aoyue 2738 available to this group for $235 plus shipping. That includes the rework station, 6 nozzles, a vacuum tweezer, a chip lifter (popper), a silicone pad, a soldering iron holder, and a fume extractor for the soldering iron. Visa and MC accepted. Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi: > > Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got > a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks. Well it's been > less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the > stock version. There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine > pitch Surface Mount Parts, see: > http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml > Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out) a couple of 10 position > SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a > 14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator. > There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of > the DIP oscillator. BNC output connector. See more at: > http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG > <http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short> > > Data Sheet for ICS525: > http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf > > When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the > high speed -02 version, see: > http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html > > For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might > have numerous uses. > Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell? > > Have Fun, > > Brooke Clarke >
BC
Brooke Clarke
Sat, May 6, 2006 12:02 AM

Hi:

To get some feel for what these will sell for I'm auctioning a prototype
unit as eBay item number 7616994287.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke, N6GCe

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got
a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks.  Well it's been
less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the
stock version.  There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine
pitch Surface Mount Parts, see:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml
Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out)  a couple of 10 position
SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a
14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator.
There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of
the DIP oscillator.  BNC output connector.  See more at:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG
http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short

Data Sheet for ICS525:
http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf

When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the
high speed -02 version, see:
http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html

For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might
have numerous uses.
Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke

Hi: To get some feel for what these will sell for I'm auctioning a prototype unit as eBay item number 7616994287. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCe Brooke Clarke wrote: >Hi: > >Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got >a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks. Well it's been >less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the >stock version. There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine >pitch Surface Mount Parts, see: >http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml >Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out) a couple of 10 position >SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a >14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator. >There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of >the DIP oscillator. BNC output connector. See more at: >http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG ><http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short> > >Data Sheet for ICS525: >http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf > >When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the >high speed -02 version, see: >http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html > >For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might >have numerous uses. >Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell? > >Have Fun, > >Brooke Clarke > > > -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com
BJ
Bill Janssen
Sat, May 6, 2006 6:18 PM

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

To get some feel for what these will sell for I'm auctioning a prototype
unit as eBay item number 7616994287.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke, N6GCe

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got
a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks.  Well it's been
less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the
stock version.  There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine
pitch Surface Mount Parts, see:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml
Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out)  a couple of 10 position
SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a
14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator.
There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of
the DIP oscillator.  BNC output connector.  See more at:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG
http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short

Data Sheet for ICS525:
http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf

When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the
high speed -02 version, see:
http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html

For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might
have numerous uses.
Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke

I looked at the ebay listing and it looks like it would be good as a
106.5 MHz signal
to lock another oscillator to get a 10.244 signal for a 10GHz convertor.
The second
oscillator would clean up the close in phase noise and your circuit can
be locked to
a 10 MHz signal of whatever quality  needed.

Don't know if you can produce them at $40.00 or so but I would be
interested in what
you come up with

Bill K7NOM

Brooke Clarke wrote: >Hi: > >To get some feel for what these will sell for I'm auctioning a prototype >unit as eBay item number 7616994287. > >Have Fun, > >Brooke Clarke, N6GCe > >Brooke Clarke wrote: > > > >>Hi: >> >>Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got >>a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks. Well it's been >>less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the >>stock version. There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine >>pitch Surface Mount Parts, see: >>http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml >>Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out) a couple of 10 position >>SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a >>14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator. >>There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of >>the DIP oscillator. BNC output connector. See more at: >>http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG >><http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short> >> >>Data Sheet for ICS525: >>http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf >> >>When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the >>high speed -02 version, see: >>http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html >> >>For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might >>have numerous uses. >>Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell? >> >>Have Fun, >> >>Brooke Clarke >> >> >> >> >> > > > I looked at the ebay listing and it looks like it would be good as a 106.5 MHz signal to lock another oscillator to get a 10.244 signal for a 10GHz convertor. The second oscillator would clean up the close in phase noise and your circuit can be locked to a 10 MHz signal of whatever quality needed. Don't know if you can produce them at $40.00 or so but I would be interested in what you come up with Bill K7NOM
BC
Brooke Clarke
Sat, May 6, 2006 7:48 PM

Hi Bill:

I can not make them at $40, but I'm willing to let one go that  low just
to see what the market looks like.

The description will be changed to indicate that the upper output
frequency should be 250 MHz not 200 Mhz.
I've also found the formula for setting the SIP switches, it's:
Fout - Fin * 2 * (V+8) / ((R+2) * S)
V and R are straight binary but S needs to be looked up in a table:
000=6
001=2
010=8
011=4
100=5
101=7
110=1
111=3

Have Fun,

Brooke

Bill Janssen wrote:

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

To get some feel for what these will sell for I'm auctioning a prototype
unit as eBay item number 7616994287.

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke, N6GCe

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got
a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks.  Well it's been
less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the
stock version.  There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine
pitch Surface Mount Parts, see:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml
Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out)  a couple of 10 position
SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a
14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator.
There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of
the DIP oscillator.  BNC output connector.  See more at:
http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG
http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short

Data Sheet for ICS525:
http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf

When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the
high speed -02 version, see:
http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html

For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might
have numerous uses.
Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell?

Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke

I looked at the ebay listing and it looks like it would be good as a
106.5 MHz signal
to lock another oscillator to get a 10.244 signal for a 10GHz convertor.
The second
oscillator would clean up the close in phase noise and your circuit can
be locked to
a 10 MHz signal of whatever quality  needed.

Don't know if you can produce them at $40.00 or so but I would be
interested in what
you come up with

Bill K7NOM


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Hi Bill: I can not make them at $40, but I'm willing to let one go that low just to see what the market looks like. The description will be changed to indicate that the upper output frequency should be 250 MHz not 200 Mhz. I've also found the formula for setting the SIP switches, it's: Fout - Fin * 2 * (V+8) / ((R+2) * S) V and R are straight binary but S needs to be looked up in a table: 000=6 001=2 010=8 011=4 100=5 101=7 110=1 111=3 Have Fun, Brooke Bill Janssen wrote: >Brooke Clarke wrote: > > > >>Hi: >> >>To get some feel for what these will sell for I'm auctioning a prototype >>unit as eBay item number 7616994287. >> >>Have Fun, >> >>Brooke Clarke, N6GCe >> >>Brooke Clarke wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi: >>> >>>Awhile ago there was some discussion about the ICS525 and I finally got >>>a quote on their demo board it was $57 and 10 weeks. Well it's been >>>less than 10 weeks and I've made my own, with more features than the >>>stock version. There's been some delay getting all the stuff to do fine >>>pitch Surface Mount Parts, see: >>>http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/SMT.shtml >>>Version 1.0 has the ICS525-02 (160 MHz max out) a couple of 10 position >>>SIP switches, a power supply including snaps for a 9 volt battery and a >>>14 pin socket that will hold either a full or half size DIP oscillator. >>>There's also a BNC input connector that can supply the chip instead of >>>the DIP oscillator. BNC output connector. See more at: >>>http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml#BTSG >>><http://www.icst.com/icscs/PartSummary.aspx?id=cf3d07a6-2cb4-4faf-8ad6-f4749fb2c1a8&name=ICS525-02&mode=short> >>> >>>Data Sheet for ICS525: >>>http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics5250102.pdf >>> >>>When using the calculator be sure to scroll down to the results for the >>>high speed -02 version, see: >>>http://www.icst.com/calculators/ics525inputForm.html >>> >>>For now I'm calling it the Battery Top Signal Generator, but it might >>>have numerous uses. >>>Is there any interest in my making more of these to sell? >>> >>>Have Fun, >>> >>>Brooke Clarke >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >I looked at the ebay listing and it looks like it would be good as a >106.5 MHz signal >to lock another oscillator to get a 10.244 signal for a 10GHz convertor. >The second >oscillator would clean up the close in phase noise and your circuit can >be locked to >a 10 MHz signal of whatever quality needed. > >Don't know if you can produce them at $40.00 or so but I would be >interested in what >you come up with > >Bill K7NOM > > >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list >time-nuts@febo.com >https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > -- w/Java http://www.PRC68.com w/o Java http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/PRC68COM.shtml http://www.precisionclock.com