I have been running Nobeltec Chartview software for about five years with no
problems to speak of (save the daily or so crash) on my Winbooks laptop which
has Windows 98 as its operating system.  A month or two ago the laptop
breathed its last and earlier this week I bought a very nice IBM Thinkpad 600X on
Ebay loaded with memory and software which I expect any day--it has Windows XP as
its operating system.

I called Nobeltec on Wednesday and they told me uniquivocally that Chartview
would not operate on XP, that there were no downloads, updates, patches, etc.
and that they do not support it any more. They said that I would have to buy
their Visual Navigation Suite, but that I could use my old Maptech CD charts.
Thursday I went to the MIBS and talked to the Nobeltec folks--same story, no
question about it, sorry sir and I should go to the Defender booth where I
could buy it for around $365.

That night I called a friend of mine who also runs Chartview and he told me
that both he and another buddy of his run it successfully on their XP-based
laptops with no problems.  As an experiment I loaded Chartview and two chart CD's
onto this desktop computer running XP and VOILA--it loaded and works just
fine.  As a test I laid out a few routes that crossed from one CD Chart region to
another (Miami to Beaufort) and the route took.

I just called Nobeltec and their friendly Sales Rep told me, in answer to a
preliminary query, the same deal--that NO, it will not work on an XP machine.
When I then told them that it did he immediately backed up and said that it
MIGHT, that it was "a 16-bit program running on a 32-bit system" and that some
folks have problems but that if I was very computer-savvy I could perhaps make
it perform.  I assured him that no one was less savvy than me and that all I
did was load it and turn it on and it worked.  When I suggested that perhaps
they revise their categorical advice so as not to appear to be Corporate
Greedheads he said that they cannot be expected to support nine-year old systems,
that they are but a small company trying to eke out an existence, etc. etc.

And so ended our conversation.  In any case  I am looking forward to getting
the new TP and running the program with GPS input once I get the unit back
from Northstar who, BTW.  are charging me $90 labor to install a new $20
battery--but that's another story.....

Best--Michael Oritt
Durbeck 48--NAMASTE

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Subject: T&T: Nobeltec Chartview

I have been running Nobeltec Chartview software for about five years
with no
problems to speak of (save the daily or so crash) on my Winbooks laptop
which has Windows 98 as its operating system.  A month or two ago the
laptop
breathed its last and earlier this week I bought a very nice IBM
Thinkpad 600X on Ebay loaded with memory and software which I expect any
day--it has Windows XP as its operating system.

I called Nobeltec on Wednesday and they told me uniquivocally that
Chartview
would not operate on XP...

Michael

I am a generation behind you and have been running Chartview for years
on an old Gateway laptop with Win 95.  The laptop just won't die.  Tried
to use a newer set of Maine charts on CD with it a couple of years ago
when we chartered up there and the new charts crashed the program every
time.  Absolutely no problems prior to that.  Figured I had a
replacement coming and bought a copy of Rosepoint Coastal Explorer,
which seemed to be the most whiz-bang thing available (runs only on XP?)
and am planning to buy a new laptop with XP but dragging my feet.

In the meantime, have Chartview loaded on the home computer with XP and
it runs with absolutely no problem.  Still has the crash trouble with
the new Maine charts CD.  The error message shown with those crashes
probably means something to someone, not me.

Long live Chartview.  Great program.  Sorry it is not supported.

Dan Stone
M/V Slow Dance
Albin 43
St. Petersburg, FL

First, I do not know what new toilet paper has to do with Windoze. Second, a
little more specificity is required Michael. Do you have Windows XP Home
Edition or Windows XP Pro? Do you have Service Pack 1 or 2 installed or
neither. Shortly, MS will no longer support SP1.

I ask this because you probably do not want to rock the boat by changing
your OS' current configuration. Many of MS' updates have been security
oriented so you may not risk much as long as you do not go online with this
computer. If it ain't broke don't fix it. XP has a compatibility mode that
usually works fine with older programs. It is almost always transparent to
the user.

No comment on their corporate policies, but they are probably having fun
keeping up with MS changes as they affect their newer products. Your job is
to maintain a stable environment. BTW, don't ever buy a Winbook again.

Ron

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From: Awgertoo@aol.com
|
| And so ended our conversation.  In any case  I am looking forward to
getting
| the new TP and running the program with GPS input once I get the unit back
| from Northstar who, BTW.  are charging me $90 labor to install a new $20
| battery--but that's another story.....

Gee, my oldest (8 years) version of the CAPN still works on everything and
it doesn't break.

                                      Regards....

Phil Rosch
Old Harbor Consulting
M/V Curmudgeon MT-44TC
Currently Lying Highborne Cay, Exuma, BA.

(SNIP) There are many applications that were designed to run on 16 bit
processors
that will run successfully on a 32 bit machine running XP.Sometimes you need
to run the app in 16 bit mode.  If you want to learn more, do a search on
the Microsoft XP support area for 16 bit or talk to any 15 year old that's
had to run an older game on a XP equipped machine.  Jonathan

Try selecting the executable, then right click and click properties.  Select
"compatibility" and pick the "age" of your operating system... My guess is
"windows 95" should resolve the compatibility issue...

                                      Regards....

Phil Rosch
Old Harbor Consulting
M/V Curmudgeon MT-44TC
Currently Lying Highborne Cay, Exuma, BA.

Since I'm too cheap to buy anything else I have been using Chartview for
years.  It is now running fine on XP with SP2 with no mods or cheats.

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http://www.seadreamer.net
40' Marine Trader
"Sea Dreamer"
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