Oh dear
On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:40:15 +0530
Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:
I once did a test with a "audio expert" and compared a CD and a digital copy.
He confirmed that the copy was the original and when I showed him which was which
he still refused to believe.. I know a local guy who gold plated the PCBs for his home brewed amp!
Well.. there is lots of bogus information going around in the audiophile
scene... Probably mostly because todays audio technology is so advanced,
that Clarke's 3rd Law applies...
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html
It's an MP3 player with high precision timing. It does not only use
two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter.. No! It also employes a technique known
as "Jitter Kill" for the ultimate mobile sound experience! :-)
Attila Kinali
--
Why does it take years to find the answers to
the questions one should have asked long ago?
Let's expect the ultimate portable MP3 player with atomic clock
reference... >:]
Also funny are the offerings with RbO CD-clocks... usually "tweaked"
FE-5680s, which are not exactly famous for a clean jitter/spurious free
output signal... The only reason is the easiness of output frequency
adjustment (for the DDS models) to that of the standard CD clock, which
promptly places a premium on the price tag.
A good XO is way better and cheaper, with the notable exception of
temperature, and long term stability - still waiting for the golden ears
capable of hearing that one...
On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:40:15 +0530
Rajvu2zap@gmail.com wrote:
I once did a test with a "audio expert" and compared a CD and a digital copy.
He confirmed that the copy was the original and when I showed him which was which
he still refused to believe.. I know a local guy who gold plated the PCBs for his home brewed amp!
Well.. there is lots of bogus information going around in the audiophile
scene... Probably mostly because todays audio technology is so advanced,
that Clarke's 3rd Law applies...
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html
It's an MP3 player with high precision timing. It does not only use
two TCXOs with<5ps Jitter.. No! It also employes a technique known
as "Jitter Kill" for the ultimate mobile sound experience! :-)
Attila Kinali
El 07/05/2012 11:20, Attila Kinali escribió:
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html It's an MP3 player with high
precision timing. It does not only use two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter..
No! It also employes a technique known as "Jitter Kill" for the
ultimate mobile sound experience! :-) Attila Kinali
It plays MP3 or uncompressed audio? ;). And the sliding potentiotemer...
prone to all kinds of noises and imbalance, and the nice wood enclosure,
hand engraved, of course manufactured in a controlled temperature and
humidity environment, that no doubt has a very positive effect on the
sound, probably as good as the EMC shielding that provides. Also I love
this paragraph "On month day of year, the technique of circuit named
Jitter Kill was registered as a patent for the other special technique
of the Pocket HIFI player". When was/will be month day of year?
excellent accuracy :)
I imagine Steve Wan and his team laughing out loud everytime their get a
purchase order.
Regards,
Javier
An old saying: "a fool and his money are often parted".
Sums things up nicely I feel.
Rob Kimberley
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Javier Herrero
Sent: 07 May 2012 11:30
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear
El 07/05/2012 11:20, Attila Kinali escribió:
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html It's an MP3 player with high
precision timing. It does not only use two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter..
No! It also employes a technique known as "Jitter Kill" for the
ultimate mobile sound experience! :-) Attila Kinali
It plays MP3 or uncompressed audio? ;). And the sliding potentiotemer...
prone to all kinds of noises and imbalance, and the nice wood enclosure,
hand engraved, of course manufactured in a controlled temperature and
humidity environment, that no doubt has a very positive effect on the sound,
probably as good as the EMC shielding that provides. Also I love this
paragraph "On month day of year, the technique of circuit named Jitter Kill
was registered as a patent for the other special technique of the Pocket
HIFI player". When was/will be month day of year?
excellent accuracy :)
I imagine Steve Wan and his team laughing out loud everytime their get a
purchase order.
Regards,
Javier
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How does the fool get his money?
Chris Stake
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: 07 May 2012 11:55
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear
An old saying: "a fool and his money are often parted".
Sums things up nicely I feel.
Rob Kimberley
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Javier Herrero
Sent: 07 May 2012 11:30
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Oh dear
El 07/05/2012 11:20, Attila Kinali escribió:
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html It's an MP3 player with high
precision timing. It does not only use two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter..
No! It also employes a technique known as "Jitter Kill" for the
ultimate mobile sound experience! :-) Attila Kinali
It plays MP3 or uncompressed audio? ;). And the sliding potentiotemer...
prone to all kinds of noises and imbalance, and the nice wood enclosure,
hand engraved, of course manufactured in a controlled temperature and
humidity environment, that no doubt has a very positive effect on the
sound,
probably as good as the EMC shielding that provides. Also I love this
paragraph "On month day of year, the technique of circuit named Jitter
Kill
was registered as a patent for the other special technique of the Pocket
HIFI player". When was/will be month day of year?
excellent accuracy :)
I imagine Steve Wan and his team laughing out loud everytime their get a
purchase order.
Regards,
Javier
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But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html
It's an MP3 player with high precision timing. It does not only use
two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter.. No! It also employes a technique known
as "Jitter Kill" for the ultimate mobile sound experience! :-)
Attila Kinali
Very interesting gadget, I quote:
"In 1877, Edison invented a kind of recording installment
which recorded 8 seconds sounds for the first time in the world. "
Installment ??
Raj
On 5/6/2012 7:39 PM, Jim Palfreyman wrote:
Make sure you read the description to discover what it's being sold for.
My chuckle for the day.
Jim Palfreyman
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Audiophools strike again
Randy
Isn't "long term stability" an oxymoron? Or, put another way, a Murphy
Mantra?
Don
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Let's expect the ultimate portable MP3 player with atomic clock
reference... >:]
Also funny are the offerings with RbO CD-clocks... usually "tweaked"
FE-5680s, which are not exactly famous for a clean jitter/spurious free
output signal... The only reason is the easiness of output frequency
adjustment (for the DDS models) to that of the standard CD clock, which
promptly places a premium on the price tag.
A good XO is way better and cheaper, with the notable exception of
temperature, and long term stability - still waiting for the golden ears
capable of hearing that one...
On 5/7/2012 12:20 PM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:40:15 +0530
Rajvu2zap@gmail.com wrote:
I once did a test with a "audio expert" and compared a CD and a
digital copy.
He confirmed that the copy was the original and when I showed him
which was which
he still refused to believe.. I know a local guy who gold plated the
PCBs for his home brewed amp!
Well.. there is lots of bogus information going around in the
audiophile
scene... Probably mostly because todays audio technology is so
advanced,
that Clarke's 3rd Law applies...
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html
It's an MP3 player with high precision timing. It does not only use
two TCXOs with<5ps Jitter.. No! It also employes a technique known
as "Jitter Kill" for the ultimate mobile sound experience! :-)
Attila Kinali
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are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind."
R. Bacon
"If you don't know what it is, don't poke it."
Ghost in the Shell
Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
Six Mile Systems LLP
17850 Six Mile Road
POB 134
Huson, MT, 59846
VOX 406-626-4304
www.lightningforensics.com
www.sixmilesystems.com
On 5/7/2012 2:20 AM, Attila Kinali wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2012 13:40:15 +0530
Rajvu2zap@gmail.com wrote:
I once did a test with a "audio expert" and compared a CD and a digital copy.
He confirmed that the copy was the original and when I showed him which was which
he still refused to believe.. I know a local guy who gold plated the PCBs for his home brewed amp!
Well.. there is lots of bogus information going around in the audiophile
scene... Probably mostly because todays audio technology is so advanced,
that Clarke's 3rd Law applies...
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html
It's an MP3 player with high precision timing. It does not only use
two TCXOs with<5ps Jitter.. No! It also employes a technique known
as "Jitter Kill" for the ultimate mobile sound experience! :-)
Attila Kinali
Yup! Audiophools strike again. . .
Randy
One of my other avocations is precision shooting. I would not like to
engage in a contest to see which bunch of aficionados has more
folklore....
Don
Javier Herrero
El 07/05/2012 11:20, Attila Kinali escribió:
But to bring this back to time nutty topics, have a look at
http://www.colorfly.eu/product.html It's an MP3 player with high
precision timing. It does not only use two TCXOs with <5ps Jitter..
No! It also employes a technique known as "Jitter Kill" for the
ultimate mobile sound experience! :-) Attila Kinali
It plays MP3 or uncompressed audio? ;). And the sliding potentiotemer...
prone to all kinds of noises and imbalance, and the nice wood enclosure,
hand engraved, of course manufactured in a controlled temperature and
humidity environment, that no doubt has a very positive effect on the
sound, probably as good as the EMC shielding that provides. Also I love
this paragraph "On month day of year, the technique of circuit named
Jitter Kill was registered as a patent for the other special technique
of the Pocket HIFI player". When was/will be month day of year?
excellent accuracy :)
I imagine Steve Wan and his team laughing out loud everytime their get a
purchase order.
Regards,
Javier
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"Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument
are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind."
R. Bacon
"If you don't know what it is, don't poke it."
Ghost in the Shell
Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL
Six Mile Systems LLP
17850 Six Mile Road
POB 134
Huson, MT, 59846
VOX 406-626-4304
www.lightningforensics.com
www.sixmilesystems.com