TWL: Fw: Using 303 to replace/augment boat wax?
----- Original Message -----
From: John & Kathleen JKG97@prodigy.net
To: j-h@angelfire.com
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2001 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Using 303 to replace/augment boat wax?
Aerospace
Protectant", to replace or augment boat wax.
I used 303 for awhile, but always envied the shine and dark color on
another boat in our marina. Two summers ago, I caught the owner in a weak
moment and pried out the secret -- baby oil! Just squeeze a wee bit onto a
clean rag and wipe away. Since then, I have used baby oil on all dark
surfaces
(vertical or no-step areas only!) with great success. At most, I put it on
two or three times each season (and in North Carolina, the season is
year-round). Simple to use, very inexpensive, just as long-lasting as any of
the commercial preparations I've used in the past.
Last season, many of my friends were envious of the dark shine on my boat.
Since they were unable to catch me in a weak moment, I bought a few quarts
of generic baby oil and re-packaged it in smaller unlabeled bottles and gave
it away. I was a real hero around the marina.
I finally broke down and told everyone what it really was when it became
apparent that I was going to have to spill the beans or buy baby oil for the
entire marina! One friend now coats his Sabreliner which has a dark blue
hull twice a year and loves the results.
No connection with any baby oil manufacturers.....
Cheers,
John
"Just Keel-ing Time"
Lake Norman, NC
JKG97@prodigy.net writes:
I'm reading good things, on other boat lists, about using "303
Protectant"
Our Local "little old sailmaker" who repairs a lot of flexible
windows on Dodgers, Biminis and enclosures, swears by "303" to
protect that flexible "glass" from UV and scratching. Mine are 3-4
years young now and look like new.
George of Scaramouche who has no connection to "303" but listens to
the advise of our "little old sailmaker".
John,
In the past I have used Penatrol to restore the dark blue stripe on
Mrs. Hudson - Krogen Manatee - and waxed over that after it has dried - it
usually lasts a season .
I do not use the penatrol on the off white hull however as it tends
to darken it slightly .
Do you wax on top of the baby oil after it has dried ??
Where did you find the generic baby oil - in quantity ??
How much does it take to do your boat ?
All the Best
Ken
Mrs. Hudson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken McQuage" tobyboat@erols.com
Where did you find the generic baby oil - in quantity ??
Hi Ken,
The industry term for "Baby Oil" is "White Oil". Chevron makes a product
called "Clarity White Oil USP" in a number of viscosities. The grade closest
to what Johnson & Johnson sells is "Clarity White Oil USP 100". Chevron also
makes a product called "Technical White Oil 100" which is probably cheaper
but may only be available in 55gal. drums.
I haven't been in contact with Arco (Lyondell) for several years but they
used to make Arcoprime 90 and Arcowhite 90. I've only seen 55gal drums of
these products but there might be more variety in your part of the world.
If you can't get that product you may be able to find something similar at a
large distributor of industrial solvents. Several years ago we would special
order 5 gallon pails of white oil from Van Waters & Rogers (biggest
industrial solvent distributor in our area and may be nationwide) which we
then sold to a local massage parlor. If you go that route you should ask for
white oil of approx 90 - 100 SUS viscosity*.
As far as I can tell white oils are not marketed by Exxon, Mobil, or Texaco.
I don't know about other brands.
*Viscosity measurement trivia: For some reason white oil viscosity seems to
be expressed in the outdated SUS (Saybolt Universal Seconds) system rather
than the more usual ISO VG (International Standards Organization Viscosity
Grade) system. The two systems are different by roughly a factor of five.
IOW: An SUS 100 oil is about the same viscosity as an ISO VG 20 oil. (Both
systems are pretty much unrelated to the SAE numbers for motor oil that
we're all familiar with.)
Centistokely yours,
Alex
alexh@gte.net writes:
Several years ago we would special
order 5 gallon pails of white oil from Van Waters & Rogers (biggest
industrial solvent distributor in our area and may be nationwide)
which we
then sold to a local massage parlor.
But did they give you a trade courtesy discount then??? <Grin>
Seriously though, Alex, you seem to know about these things. How
does this white oil compare to the "highly refined" Paraffin Oil that
I use in my oil lamps. NOT the scented, coloured cheap stuff which is
Kerosene and makes your eyes water and your throat choke; what I'm
referring to is clear, odourless and burns without any fumes. Smells
like candles burning. It's more expensive than ordinary lamp oil. I
use it quite a bit and it's readily available in 1 liter containers
at local home/hardware stores. It looks, feels and tastes like "baby
oil"...
George of Scaramouche, Lake Ontario - Canada
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Geist" scaramouche@tvo.org
How does this white oil compare to the "highly refined" Paraffin Oil that
I use in my oil lamps.
Hi George,
I'm not familiar with "Paraffin oil" as a specific product. Your description
however would also fit white oil very well. White oil is pretty much as
highly refined as you can get and as purely paraffinic as you can get. It
is, after all, mostly used in food processing applications where the oil
routinely comes in contact with the food.
The thinnest white oil that I'm aware of has a viscosity of 90 SUS while the
thickest kerosene is around 31 SUS. That's quite a big difference but if
you're using it in wick fed lamps it may not be important.
There are deodorized versions of true kerosene on the market but they tend
to be hard to find and probably are just as costly as what you are using
now.
BTW: Amen on the scented kerosene; Yuck
Odorlessly yours,
Alex