Hi
I want to build a small, cheap, yet precise long-wave receiver which
can be
tuned from the computer in the 2KHz - 200 KHz range (the intended use
is to receive various time signal stations).
Does a chip for such a receiver exist? Should I take the SDR route?
I designed a DCF77 receivers some years ago, but I need something
more flexible (and a bit more modern...)
In message 38553AAD-ECC6-4AF8-90B3-42BBEC366CA6@msys.ch, Marc Balmer writes:
I want to build a small, cheap, yet precise long-wave receiver which
can be
tuned from the computer in the 2KHz - 200 KHz range (the intended use
is to receive various time signal stations).
Does a chip for such a receiver exist? Should I take the SDR route?
I designed a DCF77 receivers some years ago, but I need something
more flexible (and a bit more modern...)
Go SDR.
There are ARM7 chips now that have sufficient ADC quality to do the
job.
See for instance: http://phk.freebsd.dk/AducLoran
Poul-Henning
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Am 22.06.2009 um 10:14 schrieb Poul-Henning Kamp:
In message 38553AAD-ECC6-4AF8-90B3-42BBEC366CA6@msys.ch, Marc
Balmer writes:
I want to build a small, cheap, yet precise long-wave receiver which
can be
tuned from the computer in the 2KHz - 200 KHz range (the intended use
is to receive various time signal stations).
Does a chip for such a receiver exist? Should I take the SDR route?
I designed a DCF77 receivers some years ago, but I need something
more flexible (and a bit more modern...)
Go SDR.
There are ARM7 chips now that have sufficient ADC quality to do the
job.
Ok, thanks. I happen to have some Overp Earth boards, OMAP 3503
Application Processor with ARM Cortex-A8 CPU, do you think these
will handle the job? (runnin at 600 MHz). They say it makes up 1200
dhrytsone mips
See for instance: http://phk.freebsd.dk/AducLoran
Thanks for the pointer, I already found that, nice work!
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In message 70D1E333-26C4-4068-BFAC-30D689BBF3D1@msys.ch, Marc Balmer writes:
Ok, thanks. I happen to have some Overp Earth boards, OMAP 3503
Application Processor with ARM Cortex-A8 CPU, do you think these
will handle the job? (runnin at 600 MHz). They say it makes up 1200
dhrytsone mips
It's more a matter of what their ADC can do...
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Am 22.06.2009 um 11:46 schrieb Poul-Henning Kamp:
In message 70D1E333-26C4-4068-BFAC-30D689BBF3D1@msys.ch, Marc
Balmer writes:
Ok, thanks. I happen to have some Overp Earth boards, OMAP 3503
Application Processor with ARM Cortex-A8 CPU, do you think these
will handle the job? (runnin at 600 MHz). They say it makes up 1200
dhrytsone mips
It's more a matter of what their ADC can do...
unfortunately it's "only" a TI TPS65950 which has only an audio codec,
the ADC doing 48kHz max.
In message 0587CB86-96EF-4660-9FBE-8C1D1FDFBAFB@msys.ch, Marc Balmer writes:
unfortunately it's "only" a TI TPS65950 which has only an audio codec,
the ADC doing 48kHz max.
That's still usable, you could for instance use a "DRM" frontend
like the "pappradio"
There are some links here:
http://www.drmradio.dk/Byggesaet og konvertere-da.htm
Poul-Henning
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Hi Marc:
The SDR-IQ has the ability to record everything between 500 Hz and 190 kHz when
used with a fast enough PC. This is the best of the SDR series for use below
200 kHz.
It can be used with SpectraVue or Winrad.
Works with I2PHD WINRAD, SM5BSZ LINRAD, HOKA and DRM software. See:
http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDR-IQ/
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.prc68.com
Marc Balmer wrote:
Hi
I want to build a small, cheap, yet precise long-wave receiver which can be
tuned from the computer in the 2KHz - 200 KHz range (the intended use
is to receive various time signal stations).
Does a chip for such a receiver exist? Should I take the SDR route?
I designed a DCF77 receivers some years ago, but I need something
more flexible (and a bit more modern...)
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Am 22.06.2009 um 16:18 schrieb Brooke Clarke:
Hi Marc:
The SDR-IQ has the ability to record everything between 500 Hz and
190 kHz when used with a fast enough PC. This is the best of the
SDR series for use below 200 kHz.
It can be used with SpectraVue or Winrad.
Works with I2PHD WINRAD, SM5BSZ LINRAD, HOKA and DRM software. See:
http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDR-IQ/
very nice, indeed, although it does not fit my definition of cheap.
but then I'd like to get one of these, are the specs and docs open?
I am not using Windows but rather Unix (BSD)
Hi
I want to build a small, cheap, yet precise long-wave receiver
which can be
tuned from the computer in the 2KHz - 200 KHz range (the intended use
is to receive various time signal stations).
Does a chip for such a receiver exist? Should I take the SDR route?
I designed a DCF77 receivers some years ago, but I need something
more flexible (and a bit more modern...)
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In message 4A3F9299.9080505@pacific.net, Brooke Clarke writes:
The SDR-IQ has the ability to record everything between 500 Hz and 190 kHz when
used with a fast enough PC. This is the best of the SDR series for use below
200 kHz.
I have looked at that earlier, but it does not look like it is feasible
to lock its clock to an atomic reference :-/
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200kHz is a bit tricky for the top end.. That probably puts the standard music recording A/D out of the picture (although they have very high performance A/Ds in them, and because of large production volume, they're relatively inexpensive).
Almost any PC these days has enough processor to take a 400 ksps stream of samples and filter/decimate it.
Maybe the boards from the HPSDR folks might serve?
Do you need continuous stream of samples? One of the eval boards for high performance A/Ds with a USB might work for you, but last time I checked, they were more oriented to "capture a buffer, then analyze" sorts of approaches.
Your best long range approach might be to use a high quality A/D with a small FPGA behind it that implements a digital down converter, feeding the (lower rate after downconversion/filtering) samples through USB to an application like DL4YHF's spectrum lab. DL4YHF is very interested in VLF receiving, and he might have good ideas on inexpensive approaches.
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/spectra1.html
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Hi Marc:
The SDR-IQ has the ability to record everything between 500
Hz and 190 kHz when used with a fast enough PC. This is the
best of the SDR series for use below 200 kHz.
It can be used with SpectraVue or Winrad.
Works with I2PHD WINRAD, SM5BSZ LINRAD, HOKA and DRM software. See:
http://www.rfspace.com/SDR-IQ.html
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SDR-IQ/
Have Fun,
Brooke Clarke
http://www.prc68.com
Marc Balmer wrote:
Hi
I want to build a small, cheap, yet precise long-wave
receiver which
can be tuned from the computer in the 2KHz - 200 KHz range (the
intended use is to receive various time signal stations).
Does a chip for such a receiver exist? Should I take the SDR route?
I designed a DCF77 receivers some years ago, but I need
something more
flexible (and a bit more modern...)