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Philip Eslinger
Tue, Aug 12, 2008 9:09 PM

I have fully intended to supply additional information for the PUP,
some of which I am sure will ignite lively discussions.  Patrick
Gerety sent me an email and asked a series of questions about our
expedition.  I am posting his list of questions and my reply for the
information and discussion of the list at large:

Welcome back Phil,
I have some questions about your trip.  Wife and I are thinking
about taking off for the Marquesas from Mexico and cruising as far
west as Fiji, then back to Tahiti and up to Hawai'i.  I have a 3500
mile range in my boat at 7+ knots, so I figure about 3000 miles with
some reserve.

  • how many in your crew each way?
  • any significant weather that time of year?
  • any problems with visas in the Society Is.?  I hear that they can
    be very particular.  Did you get visas in advance?
  • any problems with getting clean fuel?
  • what was your favorite place?
  • what place would you skip next time?
    As I recall, you keep your boat at Ko Olina.  Do you live there
    too?  We live full time in Cabo, just down the street from Ken
    Williams.  We are talking about relocating to O'ahu.  We looked at
    the condos at Ko Olina but my wife prefers a Waikiki location.  Any
    comments?  We lived in Tonga for two years, and on Molokai for a
    while, so we know all about the South Pacific and what we're getting
    into.
    Thanks
    Patrick
    Willard 40PH
    ALOHA
    La Paz, MX

Patrick,

Good to hear from you again.  Please relay my regards to Ken Williams
and tell him that I will have lots of recommendations for his Pacific
cruiser's web site regarding Polynesia.

We also technically have a 3600 NM range at 1100 RPM in smooth water.
Practically, I like to limit myself to 3000 NM, but I am uncomfortable
with ranges beyond about 2400 NM which is all you really need.  At
this lower range, I usually run at my efficient 1100 RPM setting for
the first half of the passage until I am more sure of the fuel.  We
have sight gages where the fuel is not even visible until we get to
800 gallons out of a total of 1400 gallons, hence the conservatism.
We also ran the generator about 12 to 14 hours a day to give everyone
in the crew a full nights sleep in the cool.  It was very hot going
down to Polynesia and we couldn't use the generator because of a fresh
water pump  problem.  Everyone was miserable and slept little.  Coming
back, we all slept well and the one gallon per hour use of the gen.
was well worth it.  After 2200 NM on the way back, we had about 400
gallons remaining.  Going down, we stopped by Christmas Island which
was a miserable experience.  We would have been much better off
bypassing Christmas and heading straight for Tahiti.  We could have
made it easily and been there four days sooner, but I have this thing
about passing up either fuel or a bathroom.

We had four in our crew on the way down, myself, my brother (who is co-
captain and engineer), my room mate from the Naval Academy who is an
ex nuclear powered submarine skipper, and a friend who is minimally
qualified and basically a seat filler during easy periods.  We ran 3
on and 9 off watches.  On the way back, we had three crew: myself, my
brother, and my wife.  My wife was minimally qualified but her
experience level increased dramatically.  We ran 4 0n and 8 off.
There was little difference between the watch cycles.  The three hour
watch was nice because it was short.  The four hour watch cycle was OK
because, my wife would come up and entertain me during the day (we
would play cribbage).  At night, we would set up the lap top computer
and play DVD's to entertain us and keep us alert.  During those times,
we would watch TV series like Monk, Boston Legal, and Seinfeld.  (We'd
seen all of the movies four times each.)  Having just three people
aboard was a little more comfortable than four.

Weather was not a problem.  I had a weather forecaster both on the way
down and the way back.  It was probably not necessary on the way down,
but safer doing so. The weather in French Polynesia was also not a
problem.  They haven't had a hurricane in twenty years.  There were
some windy and hence rough days and many smooth days.  With the trade
winds, there is always an Easterly uphill direction and a Westerly
downhill direction.  When we were going from the Tuamotu to the
Marquesas. a distance of 500 NM, we were going directly uphill and got
the stuffings pounded out of us.  We had things fail, such as belts,
and get thrown around that have never moved before.  The main computer
was unusable because it would freeze every few minutes because of the
pounding.  In contrast, the main computer froze only once during the
long passage back.  The payoff to slogging uphill to the Marquesas
was 10 to 11 days of decent ride on the way back to Hawaii.  The
Marquesas are far enough East to make the passage back to Hawaii
mostly downhill.

Visas in French Polynesia are not a problem.  They have an automatic
30 day visa for Americans.  This can easily be extended to a maximum
of 90 days.  The catch here is that you have to post a bond if you
can't show a return ticket to the US.  We used an agent in Tahiti,
Polynesian Yacht Services, who handled everything, all of the
extensions and the bonds.  It also gave us a place to have parts
shipped with French speaking agents to retrieve the shipments and pay
the customs on them, an invaluable service. We got fuel at Christmas
Island,Taina Marina in Papeete twice, and at Nuku Hiva before our
passage back to Hawaii.  All places provided extremely clean fuel.  We
have not changed our fuel filter since our passage South to Polynesia
in April.  I don't think our tanks have ever been cleaner.

Picking a favorite place is difficult.  Each place had it's own
charms.  We are divers.  French Polynesia is a diver's paradise.  My
wife who is newly certified has been spoiled for all time.  I can tell
you my least favorite place: Papeete.  It is a big city, crowded with
traffic, not particularly scenic, and the anchorage at Taina is very
crowded with water that is less than clean.  But it is also not to be
missed.  Papeete on Tahiti, is the largest city in Polynesia.  It it
where you have to get your visa extensions and duty free fuel
certificate.  This is where you resupply at the huge, super-Walmart,
like Carefour store.  This is where you can buy things that you can't
get anywhere else in the islands.  It has its conveniences.  The
Society Islands are all gorgeous volcanic islands with protective
barrier reefs.  These islands include Tahiti, Moorea, and Bora Bora.
The Tuamotu are all atolls.  The lagoon at Fakarava is the second
largest in the world, large enough to fit the entire island of
Tahiti.  It is literally an inland ocean at 400 square miles.  The
Marquesas are younger volcanic islands, similar to the Hawaiian
Islands, that have not had enough time to develop barrier reefs.  Even
the native Polynesians differ from Island to island.  In the
Marquesas, the Polynesians speak different languages on neighboring
islands and actually have to speak French when they communicate with
each other.

The only place I would skip (and I did on the way back) would be
Christmas Island.  Christmas is part of the Line Islands which define
the Eastern end of the Republic of Kiribati (pronounced K ear ibas).
If you look on a map, look for the jog in the international date line,
otherwise Christmas and the capital of Tarawa would be 23 hours apart.

Patrick- consider Ko Olina.  First, there is a two year (at least)
wait list for Ala Wai Marina in Waikiki.  It is dirty with minimal
security and questionable power.  Ko Olina is new, the best security I
have ever had, and the best power I have ever had.  Yes, it is more
remote.  Cars are very reasonable here.  Lots of people leave the
island and want to sell you their car.  Even if you only keep it for a
year, you can get most of your money out of it.

Phil Eslinger
Flat Earth N50

I have fully intended to supply additional information for the PUP, some of which I am sure will ignite lively discussions. Patrick Gerety sent me an email and asked a series of questions about our expedition. I am posting his list of questions and my reply for the information and discussion of the list at large: > Welcome back Phil, > I have some questions about your trip. Wife and I are thinking > about taking off for the Marquesas from Mexico and cruising as far > west as Fiji, then back to Tahiti and up to Hawai'i. I have a 3500 > mile range in my boat at 7+ knots, so I figure about 3000 miles with > some reserve. > - how many in your crew each way? > - any significant weather that time of year? > - any problems with visas in the Society Is.? I hear that they can > be very particular. Did you get visas in advance? > - any problems with getting clean fuel? > - what was your favorite place? > - what place would you skip next time? > As I recall, you keep your boat at Ko Olina. Do you live there > too? We live full time in Cabo, just down the street from Ken > Williams. We are talking about relocating to O'ahu. We looked at > the condos at Ko Olina but my wife prefers a Waikiki location. Any > comments? We lived in Tonga for two years, and on Molokai for a > while, so we know all about the South Pacific and what we're getting > into. > Thanks > Patrick > Willard 40PH > ALOHA > La Paz, MX Patrick, Good to hear from you again. Please relay my regards to Ken Williams and tell him that I will have lots of recommendations for his Pacific cruiser's web site regarding Polynesia. We also technically have a 3600 NM range at 1100 RPM in smooth water. Practically, I like to limit myself to 3000 NM, but I am uncomfortable with ranges beyond about 2400 NM which is all you really need. At this lower range, I usually run at my efficient 1100 RPM setting for the first half of the passage until I am more sure of the fuel. We have sight gages where the fuel is not even visible until we get to 800 gallons out of a total of 1400 gallons, hence the conservatism. We also ran the generator about 12 to 14 hours a day to give everyone in the crew a full nights sleep in the cool. It was very hot going down to Polynesia and we couldn't use the generator because of a fresh water pump problem. Everyone was miserable and slept little. Coming back, we all slept well and the one gallon per hour use of the gen. was well worth it. After 2200 NM on the way back, we had about 400 gallons remaining. Going down, we stopped by Christmas Island which was a miserable experience. We would have been much better off bypassing Christmas and heading straight for Tahiti. We could have made it easily and been there four days sooner, but I have this thing about passing up either fuel or a bathroom. We had four in our crew on the way down, myself, my brother (who is co- captain and engineer), my room mate from the Naval Academy who is an ex nuclear powered submarine skipper, and a friend who is minimally qualified and basically a seat filler during easy periods. We ran 3 on and 9 off watches. On the way back, we had three crew: myself, my brother, and my wife. My wife was minimally qualified but her experience level increased dramatically. We ran 4 0n and 8 off. There was little difference between the watch cycles. The three hour watch was nice because it was short. The four hour watch cycle was OK because, my wife would come up and entertain me during the day (we would play cribbage). At night, we would set up the lap top computer and play DVD's to entertain us and keep us alert. During those times, we would watch TV series like Monk, Boston Legal, and Seinfeld. (We'd seen all of the movies four times each.) Having just three people aboard was a little more comfortable than four. Weather was not a problem. I had a weather forecaster both on the way down and the way back. It was probably not necessary on the way down, but safer doing so. The weather in French Polynesia was also not a problem. They haven't had a hurricane in twenty years. There were some windy and hence rough days and many smooth days. With the trade winds, there is always an Easterly uphill direction and a Westerly downhill direction. When we were going from the Tuamotu to the Marquesas. a distance of 500 NM, we were going directly uphill and got the stuffings pounded out of us. We had things fail, such as belts, and get thrown around that have never moved before. The main computer was unusable because it would freeze every few minutes because of the pounding. In contrast, the main computer froze only once during the long passage back. The payoff to slogging uphill to the Marquesas was 10 to 11 days of decent ride on the way back to Hawaii. The Marquesas are far enough East to make the passage back to Hawaii mostly downhill. Visas in French Polynesia are not a problem. They have an automatic 30 day visa for Americans. This can easily be extended to a maximum of 90 days. The catch here is that you have to post a bond if you can't show a return ticket to the US. We used an agent in Tahiti, Polynesian Yacht Services, who handled everything, all of the extensions and the bonds. It also gave us a place to have parts shipped with French speaking agents to retrieve the shipments and pay the customs on them, an invaluable service. We got fuel at Christmas Island,Taina Marina in Papeete twice, and at Nuku Hiva before our passage back to Hawaii. All places provided extremely clean fuel. We have not changed our fuel filter since our passage South to Polynesia in April. I don't think our tanks have ever been cleaner. Picking a favorite place is difficult. Each place had it's own charms. We are divers. French Polynesia is a diver's paradise. My wife who is newly certified has been spoiled for all time. I can tell you my least favorite place: Papeete. It is a big city, crowded with traffic, not particularly scenic, and the anchorage at Taina is very crowded with water that is less than clean. But it is also not to be missed. Papeete on Tahiti, is the largest city in Polynesia. It it where you have to get your visa extensions and duty free fuel certificate. This is where you resupply at the huge, super-Walmart, like Carefour store. This is where you can buy things that you can't get anywhere else in the islands. It has its conveniences. The Society Islands are all gorgeous volcanic islands with protective barrier reefs. These islands include Tahiti, Moorea, and Bora Bora. The Tuamotu are all atolls. The lagoon at Fakarava is the second largest in the world, large enough to fit the entire island of Tahiti. It is literally an inland ocean at 400 square miles. The Marquesas are younger volcanic islands, similar to the Hawaiian Islands, that have not had enough time to develop barrier reefs. Even the native Polynesians differ from Island to island. In the Marquesas, the Polynesians speak different languages on neighboring islands and actually have to speak French when they communicate with each other. The only place I would skip (and I did on the way back) would be Christmas Island. Christmas is part of the Line Islands which define the Eastern end of the Republic of Kiribati (pronounced K ear ibas). If you look on a map, look for the jog in the international date line, otherwise Christmas and the capital of Tarawa would be 23 hours apart. Patrick- consider Ko Olina. First, there is a two year (at least) wait list for Ala Wai Marina in Waikiki. It is dirty with minimal security and questionable power. Ko Olina is new, the best security I have ever had, and the best power I have ever had. Yes, it is more remote. Cars are very reasonable here. Lots of people leave the island and want to sell you their car. Even if you only keep it for a year, you can get most of your money out of it. Phil Eslinger Flat Earth N50