It depends upon where you are going to cruise to. On the west coast of
north America, the tides are large and there are very few dinghy docks.
Most of the time you are landing your dinghy on a beach and then dragging it
100 feet up the beach to get it above the tide line. For this you need a
total weight around 120 lbs and a set of dinghy wheels mounted to the
transom. I found my Achilles with its 25 HP motor at 300 lbs very
difficult to use in these conditions.
Now that I am in the Caribbean where the tide is only a couple of feet and
dinghy docks are prevalent, the comfort and speed of my heavy dingy is
acceptable.
Overall I would now buy an AquaPro rib with a 9 or 10 HP motor with a total
weight target of 120 lbs.
David Schramm
M/V Jenny
Current
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My take on dinghy's and we all have our favorites, is a 10 to 11' RIB
with a 9.5 HP outboard motor. Both dinghy and motor can be hauled up
on beach and most people can lift the 9.5 hp 2 cycle outboard off the
transom if necessary. I carry a spare 9.5 hung on the rail in case of
emergency. We can carry 6 adults when necessary and there is plenty of
room for pets unless you adopt a bear in AK! Never saw the reason for
25hp and they are to heavy for someone my age to manhandle. God Bless
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:34 AM, David Schramm david@schramm-family.net wrote:
It depends upon where you are going to cruise to. On the west coast of
north America, the tides are large and there are very few dinghy docks.
Most of the time you are landing your dinghy on a beach and then dragging it
100 feet up the beach to get it above the tide line. For this you need a
total weight around 120 lbs and a set of dinghy wheels mounted to the
transom. I found my Achilles with its 25 HP motor at 300 lbs very
difficult to use in these conditions.
Now that I am in the Caribbean where the tide is only a couple of feet and
dinghy docks are prevalent, the comfort and speed of my heavy dingy is
acceptable.
Overall I would now buy an AquaPro rib with a 9 or 10 HP motor with a total
weight target of 120 lbs.
David Schramm
M/V Jenny
Current
<http://www.winlink.org/dotnet/maps/PositionReportsDetail.aspx?callsign=KI6C
EL> Location
Journey Log http://groups.google.com/group/jennyjourney
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I just purchased a Chesapeake Light Craft "Passagemaker" from an amateur
builder who produces professional quality. If you are on the East Coast,
this is an attractive option. Certainly a dinghy which embraces her
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She is 11'7" in length and 56" in beam and draws 6" in rowing trim. She also
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Steve,thanks for this map of Piracy and it does show a concentration in South
China Sea and around Singapore, but it should be shown in Context. I live in
Singapore and know at any one time on any one day there is over 800
commercial ships either coming or going into Singapore, this is the largest
Container port in the world with the highest tonnage, even higher than
Rotterdam so another glance at the map still makes it very interesting but in
context not quite so frightening.
Regards
David
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Subject: [PUP] Google map of piracy incidents
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in context with North America and Europe's complete lack of incidents shown,
I'd have to say that I'd be a bit concerned if I were in your waters.
Warren
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Steve,thanks for this map of Piracy and it does show a concentration in
South
China Sea and around Singapore, but it should be shown in Context. I live
in
Singapore and know at any one time on any one day there is over 800
commercial ships either coming or going into Singapore, this is the largest
Container port in the world with the highest tonnage, even higher than
Rotterdam so another glance at the map still makes it very interesting but
in
context not quite so frightening.
Regards
David
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Dubnoff"
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:45 PM
Subject: [PUP] Google map of piracy incidents
REPLY
On Nov 26 a report from IMO indicated that pirates may be using AIS to
track and pinpoint target vessels. Until now it was assumed the pirates
were simply attacking any vessels of opportunity. Debriefings of captured
pirates now show they are aware of valuable ships leaving distant ports
and heading towards their chosen hunting area.
One Frech registered luxury yacht has already been taken after it transited
the Suez canal.. Pleasure yachts will be seen as lower risk targets now
that armed escorts and on board mercenaries are employede to protect
commercial shipping.
Suddenly AIS becomes a mixed blessing when transiting troubled waters.
regards
Arild
Time to figure out how to put your transponder in receive-only mode if
you go into hazardous waters. Something a yacht the size of the ones
the people of this group likely own, who aren't required to have AIS
to the best of my knowledge.
If you get the magic incantation from the manufacturer, even the Class
A units can be switched to this mode, although its not in the manual,
at least for Furuno FA150. It takes a special password to kill the
transmitter.
John Marshall
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wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Dubnoff"
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:45 PM
Subject: [PUP] Google map of piracy incidents
REPLY
On Nov 26 a report from IMO indicated that pirates may be using
AIS to
track and pinpoint target vessels. Until now it was assumed the
pirates
were simply attacking any vessels of opportunity. Debriefings of
captured
pirates now show they are aware of valuable ships leaving distant
ports
and heading towards their chosen hunting area.
One Frech registered luxury yacht has already been taken after it
transited
the Suez canal.. Pleasure yachts will be seen as lower risk targets
now
that armed escorts and on board mercenaries are employede to protect
commercial shipping.
Suddenly AIS becomes a mixed blessing when transiting troubled
waters.
regards
Arild
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Time to figure out how to put your transponder in receive-only mode if
you go into hazardous waters.
But then again, with the Indian navy sinking fishing trawlers they
happen to think are pirate ships, it is best to identify yourself,
perhaps as a "low-budget yacht".
Best,
Steve
----- Original Message -----
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But then again, with the Indian navy sinking fishing trawlers they
happen to think are pirate ships, it is best to identify yourself,
perhaps as a "low-budget yacht".
REPLY
How about a combination system of listening full time and being able to
select low power transmit mode momentarily to identify yourself; but only
if you are certain the other vessels in sight are legit. Patrol boats,
escort vessels, etc.
Of course avoid going there or sailing in convoy is likely to be the best
protective method.
IMO officials were quoted as saying that given the amount of money paid in
ransom, equipping these pirate vessels with the latest in sophisticated
navigation tools is afordable. Today I saw a report that four british
mercenaries hired to protect a ship was forced to jump overboard when the
pirate vessel opened fire with RPG on the operator of the sonic cannon
used for defense. The story caption said they needed guns and greater
firepower.
Arild