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Re: GL: Cross Gulf

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veiner@juno.com
Fri, Jan 18, 2008 1:09 PM

Ms. Osborne,
I don't know why you would cross the Gulf from Panama City to Tarpon Springs
if the weather were bad. Yes, you have a seaworthy vessel, but occupants take
a tremendous beating under those conditions.

If you feel you must move and make progress, then continue east on the GICW to
Carabelle, and then even to St. Marks in short hops. Then depart after a cold
front has passed through the area.

Martin Veiner & Margaret Shearon
Cruising aboard the trawler Micha
Located: Key Largo, Florida (MM 106)
Email: veiner@juno.com or martin.veiner@gmail.com
Website: http://www.micha.talkspot.com


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Ms. Osborne, I don't know why you would cross the Gulf from Panama City to Tarpon Springs if the weather were bad. Yes, you have a seaworthy vessel, but occupants take a tremendous beating under those conditions. If you feel you must move and make progress, then continue east on the GICW to Carabelle, and then even to St. Marks in short hops. Then depart after a cold front has passed through the area. Martin Veiner & Margaret Shearon Cruising aboard the trawler Micha Located: Key Largo, Florida (MM 106) Email: veiner@juno.com or martin.veiner@gmail.com Website: http://www.micha.talkspot.com _____________________________________________________________ Be your own boss today! Go to Technical School. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigla6jwOA1SWCrSVzS0Hmq4waus 3n61PcZ8zu37WONbbJvig/
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Jonathan Gray
Fri, Jan 18, 2008 2:07 PM

While I didn't read Ms Osborne's message as saying they were going in bad
weather, I thought I might make a general comment. We completed the loop
recently without incident until I managed to make a few blunders on this leg
which was our final leg to Clearwater. I was warned by a friend there (very
knowledgeable salty type) "That corner of the gulf can be a real mess" I
arrogantly assumed that was for small boats and being used to blue water
cruising and rough sea conditions we figured we would be ok in our 56' Boat.
The first attempt put us on a sand bar at Government cut after departing
Apalachicola apparently the bar shifts dramatically week to week, must have
been divine intervention as the winds later gusted to18 knots. The second
attempt we were turned back after leaving Carrabelle in 10-15 South
Easterly's what I would consider pleasant forecast. The further out into the
gulf we got the worse it got, so we turned back to Carrabelle and ate some
humble pie for not heading Buddy's (the Dockhands) advice the night before.
Our final attempt was in 10 Knots and it was rough for about 75 miles and
was only doable by being on plane and trimming the boat to suit the
conditions. I could not imagine doing the same at 8 knots even in a Defeaver
for which I have great respect for its sea keeping capabilities..the boat
will be fine it's the occupants who will be worn out.
Just my thoughts for what its worth,

All the best

Jonathan W. Gray
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Subject: Re: GL: Cross Gulf

Ms. Osborne,
I don't know why you would cross the Gulf from Panama City to Tarpon Springs
if the weather were bad. Yes, you have a seaworthy vessel, but occupants
take
a tremendous beating under those conditions.

If you feel you must move and make progress, then continue east on the GICW
to
Carabelle, and then even to St. Marks in short hops. Then depart after a
cold
front has passed through the area.

Martin Veiner & Margaret Shearon
Cruising aboard the trawler Micha
Located: Key Largo, Florida (MM 106)
Email: veiner@juno.com or martin.veiner@gmail.com
Website: http://www.micha.talkspot.com


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While I didn't read Ms Osborne's message as saying they were going in bad weather, I thought I might make a general comment. We completed the loop recently without incident until I managed to make a few blunders on this leg which was our final leg to Clearwater. I was warned by a friend there (very knowledgeable salty type) "That corner of the gulf can be a real mess" I arrogantly assumed that was for small boats and being used to blue water cruising and rough sea conditions we figured we would be ok in our 56' Boat. The first attempt put us on a sand bar at Government cut after departing Apalachicola apparently the bar shifts dramatically week to week, must have been divine intervention as the winds later gusted to18 knots. The second attempt we were turned back after leaving Carrabelle in 10-15 South Easterly's what I would consider pleasant forecast. The further out into the gulf we got the worse it got, so we turned back to Carrabelle and ate some humble pie for not heading Buddy's (the Dockhands) advice the night before. Our final attempt was in 10 Knots and it was rough for about 75 miles and was only doable by being on plane and trimming the boat to suit the conditions. I could not imagine doing the same at 8 knots even in a Defeaver for which I have great respect for its sea keeping capabilities..the boat will be fine it's the occupants who will be worn out. Just my thoughts for what its worth, All the best Jonathan W. Gray Graycious! -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of veiner@juno.com Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:10 AM To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: GL: Cross Gulf Ms. Osborne, I don't know why you would cross the Gulf from Panama City to Tarpon Springs if the weather were bad. Yes, you have a seaworthy vessel, but occupants take a tremendous beating under those conditions. If you feel you must move and make progress, then continue east on the GICW to Carabelle, and then even to St. Marks in short hops. Then depart after a cold front has passed through the area. Martin Veiner & Margaret Shearon Cruising aboard the trawler Micha Located: Key Largo, Florida (MM 106) Email: veiner@juno.com or martin.veiner@gmail.com Website: http://www.micha.talkspot.com _____________________________________________________________ Be your own boss today! Go to Technical School. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iigla6jwOA1SWCrSVzS0Hmq4wau s 3n61PcZ8zu37WONbbJvig/ _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1229 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 11:12 AM