Use of Marine VHF chanels.
I recently attended some local community emergency training meetings. The
training was centered around the action to be taken in the event of a
catastrophic disaster in our area. One of the training speakers suggested
the use 'on land' of the marine VHF band in an emergency, I pointed out the
citizens bands were the appropriate frequencies to use, and not the marine
bands, as the traffic would probably be very busy in use for boaters needing
assistance. He thought he would have a legitimate right to use it. Would
the Coast Guards think otherwise.
What is the collective wisdom of the group ?
Graham Pugh
Kando 11
New Bern, NC
I am pretty sure it is illegal to use the marine bands for land to land purposes.
Trawler on,
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The boat I have now is the first boat I have ever owned with a bow thruster. I have to say it is pure decadence although that is not the purpose of this post. I have only owned the boat for about 4 months in which I have put about 80 hours on it. The bow thruster seems to use quite a bit of oil. My previous boat(Prairie 29) had tons of windage and only a single with NO thruster and it was always quite rewarding to dock. So when I dock this boat(Mainship Pilot) the bow thruster just recieves a little nudge if at all. It might recieve 5 seconds of usage per docking maneuver. Anyway, is this normal? I am under the impression that the seals may be leaking but there is no water coming into the boat and I have looked for a sheen on the surface of the water after activation. But the oil level decreases nonetheless. Thanks in advance.
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John
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I recently attended some local community emergency training
meetings...
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He thought he would have a legitimate right to use it. Would
the Coast Guards think otherwise.
I'm pretty sure that all of those rules get thrown out in a real emergency
as long as the radio transmissions are being used for emergency use. Almost
all FCC rules for frequency and power usage go away in a real emergency.
I've used marine frequencies from land in an emergency situation once. It
was a situation where I was the crew chief of our ambulance waiting for a
boat coming in where one of the people on board had been stung by a bee, had
gone into anaphylactic shock, and had stopped breathing. I keep the marine
frequencies on my ambulance handheld and was in communication from land to
the Coast Guard who was relaying messages to the approaching boat, providing
ETA, etc. The Coast Guard had no problem assisting, never questioned the
radio use, and kept us on channel 16 for the entire event.
As an epilog, I jumped onboard the boat as it arrived with syringe of
epinephrine, did a quick evaluation, and plunged the needle into the
patient's arm. Fifteen seconds later we were both breathing again...
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Jeffrey Siegel
M/V aCappella
DeFever 53PH
W1ACA/WDB4350
Castine, Maine
www.activecaptain.com
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Graham, despite the likelihood that the Coast Guard would indeed think
otherwise, it is not a violation of THEIR rules. It is a violation of FCC
rules, and the CG would likely be burning up the landline, calling the FCC
to have them cite the offending non-marine-licensed land stations.
Bob Peterson
"Lopaka Nane"
47' Lien Hwa CPMY
San Francisco
I think legally, any radio communication in an emergency is OK. For
instance, if you're in trouble at sea, it's totally OK to use HAM radio to
call for help, even if you don't have a license. I would imagine the USCG
would have (and maybe did) respond to folks with VHF's during Katrina who
were stranded "on land".
Keith
"How soon a ship can age and die for want of the love of a human being."
--Peter Gerard--
----- Original Message -----
From: "graham pugh" grahampugh@earthlink.net
I recently attended some local community emergency training meetings. The
training was centered around the action to be taken in the event of a
catastrophic disaster in our area. One of the training speakers suggested
the use 'on land' of the marine VHF band in an emergency, I pointed out
the
citizens bands were the appropriate frequencies to use, and not the marine
bands, as the traffic would probably be very busy in use for boaters
needing
assistance. He thought he would have a legitimate right to use it.
Would
the Coast Guards think otherwise.
Nope. Mine is 5 years old and I have yet to note any significant decrease in
the oil. You've got a seal leaking that needs to be replaced. I think Wesmar
says to replace that seal every three years or so. Check with your
thruster's mfg.
Keith
If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the terminal?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Baker" flyjbaker@yahoo.com
The boat I have now is the first boat I have ever owned with a bow
thruster. I have to say it is pure decadence although that is not the
purpose of this post. I have only owned the boat for about 4 months in
which I have put about 80 hours on it. The bow thruster seems to use
quite a bit of oil. My previous boat(Prairie 29) had tons of windage and
only a single with NO thruster and it was always quite rewarding to dock.
So when I dock this boat(Mainship Pilot) the bow thruster just recieves a
little nudge if at all. It might recieve 5 seconds of usage per docking
maneuver. Anyway, is this normal? I am under the impression that the
seals may be leaking but there is no water coming into the boat and I have
looked for a sheen on the surface of the water after activation. But the
oil level decreases nonetheless. Thanks in advance.
Man, I highly doubt that. We had a marina VHF stuck in the keyed up
position, transmitting around here for weeks. Nobody could transmit or
receive within a mile or two. I called the USCG Galveston (I'm up in Clear
Lake) on the land line. They told me they couldn't hear it, so it must not
be a problem. I mentioned that they might want to send a boat up here to
check it out if they didn't believe me, and that it was a safety problem.
They informed me it wasn't their problem as they had no say over radios,
etc., and to call the FCC. I asked for a contact number/person... they had
no idea. Like they said, wasn't their problem.
I started calling Washington, DC, then worked my way down and finally got a
field agent in the Houston area. The interference finally stopped a week
later. I hope they found the guy and fined the s--t out of him.
Keith
I went to see my doctor. "Doctor, every morning when I get up and I look in
the mirror...I feel like throwing up; What's wrong with me?" He said..."I
don't know but your eyesight is perfect." - Rodney Dangerfield
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Peterson" bob@peterson.org
Graham, despite the likelihood that the Coast Guard would indeed think
otherwise, it is not a violation of THEIR rules. It is a violation of FCC
rules, and the CG would likely be burning up the landline, calling the FCC
to have them cite the offending non-marine-licensed land stations.
From: "Keith" keith@anastasia3.com
Nope. Mine is 5 years old and I have yet to note any significant decrease
in
the oil. (endsnip)
Speaking of which, what was the outcome of your thruster problems. Seems
like you had a premature gearbox failure, then a re-intallation problem? Did
you ever get any joy from either? Wondering is Westmar and/or the shipyard
stepped up to the plate and did you right?
Brent Hodges