Thanks Tad: >From all that's been read here it appears you hit the nail on the head. Thank you for giving us an excellent guideline for our crusade to find our perfect passage maker. Jim Hughes PS: Has anyone had experience with hull scans? _Hull Scan - Services_ (http://www.kuyakurt.com/portfolio/websites/hullscan/FAQ.htm) (http://www.moneyyogaseminar.com/) In a message dated 12/12/2008 12:00:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com writes: 11. PPM - how big? (Tad Roberts) **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)