Georgs/members, What we don't need on a site supposedly about passagemaking, is a drop kick like Dennis O'Connor spouting off at the mouth about something he obviously failed to tell the whole story about, thus sending a false story about NZ This is a blatant political comment by someone with an axe to grind, and if he is a Kiwi which I suspect, tell him to get on a boat, if he has one of course, and tell us about something that can bring value to the passagemaking community. Crap like this is destructive to one of the best countries in the world for cruising and visiting. If his mate Doughie wants' to exercise his US Constitutional rights, why in the hell isn't he back in the US and not as a guest in NZ. No country would let a 13 yr old girl solo navigate for a dozen reasons. Get real mate. Peter Sheppard Melbourne, Australia N55#38 ************************************