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Steven Dubnoff

Tue, Apr 26, 2005 6:04 AM

These street-level maps are amazingly detailed, see:

     http://compass.t-mobile.com/default.aspx

If the other carriers would do this, one could make very informed decisions.

Best,

Steve

Steve Dubnoff
1966 Willard Pilothouse
www.mvnereid.com
sdubnoff@circlesys.com

These street-level maps are amazingly detailed, see: http://compass.t-mobile.com/default.aspx If the other carriers would do this, one could make very informed decisions. Best, Steve Steve Dubnoff 1966 Willard Pilothouse www.mvnereid.com sdubnoff@circlesys.com

MO

Mike O'Dell

Tue, Apr 26, 2005 2:10 PM

it would be interesting to know how accurate those
maps really are.

i suspect they are largely out of propagation models and
not a lot of on-the-street power measurements.

that said, some of the propagation models are very good
in general, but the predictions about any one street
corner and the propagation seen there is difficult without
excruciating detail in modelling the environment and the
concomitant computational workload to work out the implications
of thost details.

however, even if the maps are just propagation predictions,
the marketing value of putting them up is obviously profound,
judging from the reaction on just this mailing list.

some marking guy should get a juicy bonus for thinking of this.

cheers,
-mo

ps - cynical about phone companies??? me???
what ever made you think that??

Steven Dubnoff wrote:

These street-level maps are amazingly detailed, see:

      http://compass.t-mobile.com/default.aspx

If the other carriers would do this, one could make very informed decisions.

Best,

Steve

Steve Dubnoff
1966 Willard Pilothouse
www.mvnereid.com
sdubnoff@circlesys.com

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it would be interesting to know how accurate those maps really are. i suspect they are largely out of propagation models and not a lot of on-the-street power measurements. that said, some of the propagation models are very good in general, but the predictions about any one street corner and the propagation seen there is difficult without excruciating detail in modelling the environment and the concomitant computational workload to work out the implications of thost details. however, even if the maps are just propagation predictions, the marketing value of putting them up is obviously profound, judging from the reaction on just this mailing list. some marking guy should get a juicy bonus for thinking of this. cheers, -mo ps - cynical about phone companies??? me??? what *ever* made you think that?? Steven Dubnoff wrote: > These street-level maps are amazingly detailed, see: > > http://compass.t-mobile.com/default.aspx > > If the other carriers would do this, one could make very informed decisions. > > Best, > > Steve > > > > > Steve Dubnoff > 1966 Willard Pilothouse > www.mvnereid.com > sdubnoff@circlesys.com > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe send email to > trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

JF

John Ford

Tue, Apr 26, 2005 3:14 PM

I'm using the Broadband access and so far am very happy, but as others have said some areas there is little or no coverage. An example is that when I was in Naples my internet access was at about the speed of a 56k modem. But when in Annapolis, Baltimore, DC, or New York it simply cooks. I've gotten 1.2 to 1.6 mbps download speeds. A great deal depends on your signal strength, and I'm looking forward to the day when it is expanded into other regions.

Here's a local map..

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController?requesttype=NEWREQUEST

Oh if your using this make sure you chose the option titled Broadband Access and V CAST Map. Then give the address info and thats it.

I was going to use this for a ICW trip we were planning, but I was depressed at the lack of coverage in NC. It appears as though if you don't hug the barrier islands your pretty much out of luck with any kind of signal. And unfortunately without a reliable way to communicate on demand back to my work there is no way I can make that trip and be gone for 2+ weeks. :-(

By the way I have no affiliation with Verizon other then I purchased the card 3 months ago and have been a very happy camper so far..

John

I'm using the Broadband access and so far am very happy, but as others have said some areas there is little or no coverage. An example is that when I was in Naples my internet access was at about the speed of a 56k modem. But when in Annapolis, Baltimore, DC, or New York it simply cooks. I've gotten 1.2 to 1.6 mbps download speeds. A great deal depends on your signal strength, and I'm looking forward to the day when it is expanded into other regions. Here's a local map.. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController?requesttype=NEWREQUEST Oh if your using this make sure you chose the option titled Broadband Access and V CAST Map. Then give the address info and thats it. I was going to use this for a ICW trip we were planning, but I was depressed at the lack of coverage in NC. It appears as though if you don't hug the barrier islands your pretty much out of luck with any kind of signal. And unfortunately without a reliable way to communicate on demand back to my work there is no way I can make that trip and be gone for 2+ weeks. :-( By the way I have no affiliation with Verizon other then I purchased the card 3 months ago and have been a very happy camper so far.. John

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Richard Sponholz

Tue, Apr 26, 2005 4:57 PM

Hi,

No coverage in Northern CA :-(

Sponholz
KIELIA

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I'm using the Broadband access and so far am very happy, but as others have
said some areas there is little or no coverage. An example is that when I
was in Naples my internet access was at about the speed of a 56k modem. But
when in Annapolis, Baltimore, DC, or New York it simply cooks. I've gotten
1.2 to 1.6 mbps download speeds. A great deal depends on your signal
strength, and I'm looking forward to the day when it is expanded into other
regions.

Here's a local map..

http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController?requesttype=NEW
REQUEST

Oh if your using this make sure you chose the option titled Broadband Access
and V CAST Map. Then give the address info and thats it.

I was going to use this for a ICW trip we were planning, but I was depressed
at the lack of coverage in NC. It appears as though if you don't hug the
barrier islands your pretty much out of luck with any kind of signal. And
unfortunately without a reliable way to communicate on demand back to my
work there is no way I can make that trip and be gone for 2+ weeks. :-(

By the way I have no affiliation with Verizon other then I purchased the
card 3 months ago and have been a very happy camper so far..

John

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Hi, No coverage in Northern CA :-( Sponholz KIELIA -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of John Ford Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:15 AM To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: T&T: Verizon Broadband Wireless Access I'm using the Broadband access and so far am very happy, but as others have said some areas there is little or no coverage. An example is that when I was in Naples my internet access was at about the speed of a 56k modem. But when in Annapolis, Baltimore, DC, or New York it simply cooks. I've gotten 1.2 to 1.6 mbps download speeds. A great deal depends on your signal strength, and I'm looking forward to the day when it is expanded into other regions. Here's a local map.. http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/CoverageLocatorController?requesttype=NEW REQUEST Oh if your using this make sure you chose the option titled Broadband Access and V CAST Map. Then give the address info and thats it. I was going to use this for a ICW trip we were planning, but I was depressed at the lack of coverage in NC. It appears as though if you don't hug the barrier islands your pretty much out of luck with any kind of signal. And unfortunately without a reliable way to communicate on demand back to my work there is no way I can make that trip and be gone for 2+ weeks. :-( By the way I have no affiliation with Verizon other then I purchased the card 3 months ago and have been a very happy camper so far.. John _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

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George Hechtman

Tue, Apr 26, 2005 5:42 PM

All good points Mike. The maps are typically quite accurate at street
level, as they drive the areas and measure as they go. Using that and the
propagation model for non-driveable areas ( like the ocean) it comes out
pretty good. This info is used for developing new tower needs and customer
service inquiries.
The other carriers have this in various forms, we use Cingular's every day.
I think it is an enlightened move on T-Mobile's part. It will cut down on
customer queries and set proper customer expectations.
George

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All good points Mike. The maps are typically quite accurate at street level, as they drive the areas and measure as they go. Using that and the propagation model for non-driveable areas ( like the ocean) it comes out pretty good. This info is used for developing new tower needs and customer service inquiries. The other carriers have this in various forms, we use Cingular's every day. I think it is an enlightened move on T-Mobile's part. It will cut down on customer queries and set proper customer expectations. George ___ Sent with SnapperMail www.snappermail.com

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