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Re: [Pmlsolicitors] SB 841

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Warren Jr., William W.
Mon, Apr 13, 2020 2:18 PM

Perhaps someone will explain to me why session days are so sacrosanct.  In the middle of a pandemic????  Really????

William W. Warren, Jr.
Moderator PML Listserv
Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP
2 North Second Street, Suite 700
Harrisburg, PA 17101
Office (717) 238-7698 | Cell (717) 979-5570
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From: Jason M. Hess jhess@mhck.com
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Subject: RE: [Pmlsolicitors] OOR webinar on Thursday April 2

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It appears as if the State House will not be in session this week, which means SB 841 will not be law until next week at the earliest.

From: Les Mlakar [mailto:lmlakar1945@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:36 AM
To: asalawandrea@atlanticbb.netmailto:asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net
Cc: Warren Jr., William W.; pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.orgmailto:pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org; Jason M. Hess; rschuettler@pamunicipalleague.orgmailto:rschuettler@pamunicipalleague.org
Subject: Re: [Pmlsolicitors] OOR webinar on Thursday April 2

The Senate Bill requires a 5 day notice of the meeting and requires the municipality proved for public comment by either email or telecommunication.  Les Mlakar

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:07 AM <asalawandrea@atlanticbb.netmailto:asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net> wrote:
Despite things being flexible and relaxed under the current circumstances,
has anyone seen anything official which eliminates the requirement for
having public comment at a public meeting, even if that meeting is a Zoom
meeting which the public can log into?

Andrea Stapleford

Andrea L. Stapleford, Esq.
Stapleford & Byham, LLC
600 Market St.
Warren, PA 16365
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Subject: [Pmlsolicitors] OOR webinar on Thursday April 2

Solicitors:

I was able to listen in on a portion of the OOR webinar this morning.  I'd
be interested in any comments you have.  Here are my takeaways:

  • OOR is taking a much more flexible position with respect to technical
    Sunshine and RTK requirements than I believe was the case earlier
  • OOR advocates balancing these requirements against public safety concerns
    (referencing Title 35 the Governor's declarations), with the greatest
    deference to public safety
  • Physical meetings are discouraged in favor of virtual meetings, using
    technological alternatives (Zoom, Skype, conference calls, etc.)
  • OOR does not support automatic disregard of requirements, only doing our
    best to meet the spirit of both laws
  • Some matters can be authorized and ratified after the fact, formal
    meetings can be postponed, contract extensions can be authorized, etc., all
    consistent with public safety
  • While the rights of the citizens under Sunshine and RTK are important, so
    are the due process rights of the governmental entities and officials, and
    third parties
  • Local discretion in making judgments on how to proceed in these
    extraordinary times should be respected.
  • OOR disclaims providing legal advice or any formulaic approach, given the
    view that local discretion should the operative principle.

Again, I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have.

William W. Warren Jr.
PML Solicitor Listserv Moderator
(office) 717-238-7698
(cell) 717-979-5570
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Perhaps someone will explain to me why session days are so sacrosanct. In the middle of a pandemic???? Really???? William W. Warren, Jr. Moderator PML Listserv Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP 2 North Second Street, Suite 700 Harrisburg, PA 17101 Office (717) 238-7698 | Cell (717) 979-5570 william.warren@saul.com<mailto:william.warren@saul.com> From: Jason M. Hess <jhess@mhck.com> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2020 10:10 AM To: Les Mlakar <lmlakar1945@gmail.com>; asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net Cc: Warren Jr., William W. <william.warren@saul.com>; pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org; rschuettler@pamunicipalleague.org Subject: RE: [Pmlsolicitors] OOR webinar on Thursday April 2 **EXTERNAL EMAIL** - This message originates from outside our Firm. Please consider carefully before responding or clicking links/attachments. It appears as if the State House will not be in session this week, which means SB 841 will not be law until next week at the earliest. From: Les Mlakar [mailto:lmlakar1945@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 10, 2020 9:36 AM To: asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net<mailto:asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net> Cc: Warren Jr., William W.; pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org<mailto:pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org>; Jason M. Hess; rschuettler@pamunicipalleague.org<mailto:rschuettler@pamunicipalleague.org> Subject: Re: [Pmlsolicitors] OOR webinar on Thursday April 2 The Senate Bill requires a 5 day notice of the meeting and requires the municipality proved for public comment by either email or telecommunication. Les Mlakar On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 9:07 AM <asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net<mailto:asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net>> wrote: Despite things being flexible and relaxed under the current circumstances, has anyone seen anything official which eliminates the requirement for having public comment at a public meeting, even if that meeting is a Zoom meeting which the public can log into? Andrea Stapleford Andrea L. Stapleford, Esq. Stapleford & Byham, LLC 600 Market St. Warren, PA 16365 (814) 723-3445 (814) 723-7950 (fax) asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net<mailto:asalawandrea@atlanticbb.net> This electronic message contains information from the law firm of Stapleford & Byham, LLC . The contents are privileged and confidential and are intended for the use of the intended addressee(s) only. If you are not an intended addressee, note that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this message is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please send a reply e-mail to the sender and delete the material from any and all computers. Unintended transmissions shall not constitute waiver of confidentiality, the attorney-client privilege or any other privilege. -----Original Message----- From: Pmlsolicitors <pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org<mailto:pmlsolicitors-bounces@lists.imla.org>> On Behalf Of Warren Jr., William W. Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020 11:15 AM To: pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org<mailto:pmlsolicitors@lists.imla.org> Cc: jhess@mhck.com<mailto:jhess@mhck.com>; rschuettler@pamunicipalleague.org<mailto:rschuettler@pamunicipalleague.org> Subject: [Pmlsolicitors] OOR webinar on Thursday April 2 Solicitors: I was able to listen in on a portion of the OOR webinar this morning. I'd be interested in any comments you have. Here are my takeaways: * OOR is taking a much more flexible position with respect to technical Sunshine and RTK requirements than I believe was the case earlier * OOR advocates balancing these requirements against public safety concerns (referencing Title 35 the Governor's declarations), with the greatest deference to public safety * Physical meetings are discouraged in favor of virtual meetings, using technological alternatives (Zoom, Skype, conference calls, etc.) * OOR does not support automatic disregard of requirements, only doing our best to meet the spirit of both laws * Some matters can be authorized and ratified after the fact, formal meetings can be postponed, contract extensions can be authorized, etc., all consistent with public safety * While the rights of the citizens under Sunshine and RTK are important, so are the due process rights of the governmental entities and officials, and third parties * Local discretion in making judgments on how to proceed in these extraordinary times should be respected. * OOR disclaims providing legal advice or any formulaic approach, given the view that local discretion should the operative principle. Again, I'd appreciate any thoughts that you have. William W. Warren Jr. PML Solicitor Listserv Moderator (office) 717-238-7698 (cell) 717-979-5570 william.warren@saul.com<mailto:william.warren@saul.com> Sent from my iPad "Saul Ewing Arnstein & Lehr LLP (saul.com<http://saul.com>) " made the following annotations: +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+ This e-mail may contain privileged, confidential, copyrighted, or other legally protected information. If you are not the intended recipient (even if the e-mail address is yours), you may not use, copy, or retransmit it. 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