Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk lecture Saturday 20th of August at ESUG

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Marcus Denker
Tue, Aug 16, 2011 7:21 AM

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Smalltalkers,
If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of
live-streaming, I can be in charge of that.

Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine
100 people watching at the same time).
Than there is the software side...

I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-)

Marcus

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On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Smalltalkers, > If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of > live-streaming, I can be in charge of that. > Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine 100 people watching at the same time). Than there is the software side... I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-) Marcus -- Marcus Denker  --  denker@acm.org http://www.marcusdenker.de
BF
Bert Freudenberg
Tue, Aug 16, 2011 10:22 AM

On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Smalltalkers,
If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of
live-streaming, I can be in charge of that.

Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine
100 people watching at the same time).
Than there is the software side...

I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-)

If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true.

However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam, somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server.

E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no setup at all:

http://www.justin.tv/squeakland
  • Bert -
On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Smalltalkers, >> If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of >> live-streaming, I can be in charge of that. >> > Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine > 100 people watching at the same time). > Than there is the software side... > > I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-) If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true. However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam, somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server. E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no setup at all: http://www.justin.tv/squeakland - Bert -
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Bernat Romagosa
Tue, Aug 16, 2011 10:43 AM

Yup, check out www.ustream.tv, you can even stream from a cellphone :)

2011/8/16 Bert Freudenberg bert@freudenbergs.de

On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com

wrote:

Hi Smalltalkers,
If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to

management of

live-streaming, I can be in charge of that.

Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine
100 people watching at the same time).
Than there is the software side...

I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-)

If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true.

However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam,
somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy
to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server.

E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no
setup at all:

    http://www.justin.tv/squeakland
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Yup, check out www.ustream.tv, you can even stream from a cellphone :) 2011/8/16 Bert Freudenberg <bert@freudenbergs.de> > > On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi Smalltalkers, > >> If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to > management of > >> live-streaming, I can be in charge of that. > >> > > Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine > > 100 people watching at the same time). > > Than there is the software side... > > > > I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-) > > If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true. > > However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam, > somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy > to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server. > > E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no > setup at all: > > http://www.justin.tv/squeakland > > - Bert - > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > -- Bernat Romagosa.
JR
James Robertson
Tue, Aug 16, 2011 11:44 AM

I'll note this: unless you have a good audio pickup, that can be pretty rough :)

On Aug 16, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Smalltalkers,
If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of
live-streaming, I can be in charge of that.

Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine
100 people watching at the same time).
Than there is the software side...

I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-)

If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true.

However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam, somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server.

E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no setup at all:

http://www.justin.tv/squeakland
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I'll note this: unless you have a good audio pickup, that can be pretty rough :) On Aug 16, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > > On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi Smalltalkers, >>> If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of >>> live-streaming, I can be in charge of that. >>> >> Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine >> 100 people watching at the same time). >> Than there is the software side... >> >> I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-) > > If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true. > > However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam, somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server. > > E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no setup at all: > > http://www.justin.tv/squeakland > > - Bert - > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org James Robertson http://www.jarober.com jarober@gmail.com
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Niall Ross
Tue, Aug 16, 2011 1:48 PM

Dear Juraj,
your help with videoing the talks will be useful.

I must agree with Marcus - to set up live streaming at this point would
require someone with strong background in it, I think.  We are set up to
video the talks, and have internet, but all beyond that would be to do.

            Yours faithfully
               Niall Ross

Marcus Denker wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Smalltalkers,
If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of
live-streaming, I can be in charge of that.

Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine
100 people watching at the same time).
Than there is the software side...

I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-)

Marcus

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Dear Juraj, your help with videoing the talks will be useful. I must agree with Marcus - to set up live streaming at this point would require someone with strong background in it, I think. We are set up to video the talks, and have internet, but all beyond that would be to do. Yours faithfully Niall Ross Marcus Denker wrote: >On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>Hi Smalltalkers, >>If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of >>live-streaming, I can be in charge of that. >> >> >> >Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine >100 people watching at the same time). >Than there is the software side... > >I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-) > > > Marcus > > >-- >Marcus Denker -- denker@acm.org >http://www.marcusdenker.de > >______________________________________________________________________ >This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email >______________________________________________________________________ > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________
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James Robertson
Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:38 PM

If someone does decide to attempt ustream (or something similar), could you guys announce it on the list?

Thanks,

On Aug 16, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Niall Ross wrote:

Dear Juraj,
your help with videoing the talks will be useful.

I must agree with Marcus - to set up live streaming at this point would require someone with strong background in it, I think.  We are set up to video the talks, and have internet, but all beyond that would be to do.

           Yours faithfully
              Niall Ross

Marcus Denker wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Smalltalkers,
If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of
live-streaming, I can be in charge of that.

Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine
100 people watching at the same time).
Than there is the software side...

I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-)

Marcus

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If someone does decide to attempt ustream (or something similar), could you guys announce it on the list? Thanks, On Aug 16, 2011, at 9:48 AM, Niall Ross wrote: > Dear Juraj, > your help with videoing the talks will be useful. > > I must agree with Marcus - to set up live streaming at this point would require someone with strong background in it, I think. We are set up to video the talks, and have internet, but all beyond that would be to do. > > Yours faithfully > Niall Ross > > Marcus Denker wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Smalltalkers, >>> If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of >>> live-streaming, I can be in charge of that. >>> >>> >> Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine >> 100 people watching at the same time). >> Than there is the software side... >> >> I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-) >> >> >> Marcus >> >> >> -- >> Marcus Denker -- denker@acm.org >> http://www.marcusdenker.de >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. >> For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ >> >> >> >> > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email ______________________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org James Robertson http://www.jarober.com jarober@gmail.com
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Stephan Eggermont
Tue, Aug 16, 2011 2:58 PM

And it requires the presentation material to be available before, so the camera can zoom onto the presenter.
Unless the presentation has been rehearsed with the cameraperson, switching between presenter and
presentation is to be avoided.

Stephan

On 16 aug 2011, at 13:44, James Robertson wrote:

I'll note this: unless you have a good audio pickup, that can be pretty rough :)

On Aug 16, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:

On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote:

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka juraj.kubelka@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Smalltalkers,
If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of
live-streaming, I can be in charge of that.

Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine
100 people watching at the same time).
Than there is the software side...

I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-)

If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true.

However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam, somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server.

E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no setup at all:

http://www.justin.tv/squeakland
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And it requires the presentation material to be available before, so the camera can zoom onto the presenter. Unless the presentation has been rehearsed with the cameraperson, switching between presenter and presentation is to be avoided. Stephan On 16 aug 2011, at 13:44, James Robertson wrote: > I'll note this: unless you have a good audio pickup, that can be pretty rough :) > > On Aug 16, 2011, at 6:22 AM, Bert Freudenberg wrote: > >> >> On 16.08.2011, at 09:21, Marcus Denker wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM, Juraj Kubelka <juraj.kubelka@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi Smalltalkers, >>>> If it is worth to do it and someone give me an introduction to management of >>>> live-streaming, I can be in charge of that. >>>> >>> Live streaming needs serious internet infrastructure... (just imagine >>> 100 people watching at the same time). >>> Than there is the software side... >>> >>> I am sure that last year, citilab didn't set this up in a week :-) >> >> If you want to host the streaming yourself, that's true. >> >> However, there are free broadcast services where all you need is a webcam, somewhat decent upload speed, and a web browser with Flash. It's really easy to use, and the streaming to users happens off someone else's web server. >> >> E.g. at Squeakfest in L.A. they used justin.tv, and there was almost no setup at all: >> >> http://www.justin.tv/squeakland >> >> - Bert - >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > James Robertson > http://www.jarober.com > jarober@gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org