Xylene is availble as "goof-off" in paint departments.

Graham

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Ghost in the Shell

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DW-40 is a good label goop remover ...

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I haven't found anything that really removes sticker glue without
scarring the paint. Of course, if you want provenance and history, leave
'em on :-)
I'm only buying usb new and pre-1930 GR.
Howareya?  Heading for shooting tomorrow and on to see Argus, then to
gun show. Just returned from marrying off step-grandson; Astoria WA.
strange town.
Don

Dr. Edward H. Currie

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who have not got it.”
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Sorry, all, got a personal mixed in! pls ignore!
Don

Dr. Edward H. Currie

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VOX 406-626-4304
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www.lightningforensics.com
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On 7/31/2013 7:06 PM, Dr. Edward H. Currie wrote:

Does the DW stand for dyslexic writing? :-)

Pretty sure you meant WD-40 as in this link...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

I've found that a lot of sticky things, including sticker glue, is oil
soluble. So I just use a liberal amount of vegetable oil with a cloth to
dissolve the stuff and get rid of the goop. Then you are left with an
oily surface (you probably shouldn't use this method on cloth which
might be stained by the vegetable oil). The second stage of the process
then can be a variety of cleaners to remove the liquid oil. Dove
dishwashing soap can be quite effective. Anyway, this two step process
works quite well for a lot of things that would take more work scrubbing
and scraping otherwise. In many cases it does a better job, without
having to use harsher chemicals.

John

On 7/31/2013 11:12 PM, Don Latham wrote:

Second the WD-40 best label adhesive remover - and is so gentle it will leave the "skin" on aluminium..
Just spray it on and let it soak in.

Can also start the lawn mower / Car / Boat with it,
Fix squeaky hinges, lubricate locks..

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I've found that a lot of sticky things, including sticker glue, is oil soluble. So I just use a liberal amount of vegetable oil with a cloth to dissolve the stuff and get rid of the goop. Then you are left with an oily surface (you probably shouldn't use this method on cloth which might be stained by the vegetable oil). The second stage of the process then can be a variety of cleaners to remove the liquid oil. Dove dishwashing soap can be quite effective. Anyway, this two step process works quite well for a lot of things that would take more work scrubbing and scraping otherwise. In many cases it does a better job, without having to use harsher chemicals.

John

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On 7/31/2013 5:42 PM, Don Latham wrote:

Goof-off now seems to be a whole family of products. See...
http://www.goofoffproducts.com/
Maybe "Heavy Duty Remover" or "power Cleaner and Degreaser" might be the
best current options.

The one MDS for Goof-off I looked at didn't mention xylene. At least
here in California, I think law has forced removal of xylene and toluene
from most products several years back and is tightening more and more. I
didn't find a good link describing current laws in my searches.

I think the bug and tar remover that I suggested was first formulated
with either xylene or toluene but the product I have been using for the
last few years doesn't have either of those VOC's mentioned. Probably
works less well, but still worked for most of my non-water-based gunk or
glue removal tasks. My three main go-to's are soap and water, alcohol,
and the bug and tar, depending on what gunk I am looking at.
Occasionally I might use acetone, some other hydrocarbon mix, or some of
the small remaining amount of MEK I bought before it was banned for sale
here.

But maybe this is all a bit tangential or off-topic for the group.

Gentlemen,

In my home you will find a fair variety of common solvents.  MEK, Toluene
And Xylene will always be there.  Of course, it is only fair to warn
everyone that the common industrial manufacture of Toluene and Xylene do not
remove all of the closely related (chemically) and universally recognized
carcinogen.  Therefore, use reasonable care and ventilation and not more
than you have to.  You can't expect the less harmful and more commonly used
aliphatics like the alcohols, to remove the "tarry" stuff.  And if you
don't want to remove your desirable finishes you can go to the chlorinated
solvents.  But be warned that those are known to cause funny bumps and
growths in you, too!

But just in case I've scared you off I will finish with a statement that
when I come in contact with poisonous plant material and begin to "itch" I
simply take MEK or Toluene on a paper towel and use it to energetically
remove the invisible "waxy" stuff that the plant uses to make sure the
irritant stays in place and causes the misery of blisters and open sores!
If you get this done in the itch stage and before the blisters appear you
will be very pleasantly surprised!  Even my daughter-in-law, who agrees
with very little I say, admits I'm right about this!

Regards,

Lee Mushel
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Scary stuff. But love the poison answer. Both of those do actually scare me.
Regards
Paul

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Lee Mushel herbert3@centurytel.net wrote: