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Re: Sour Grapes vs. No Grapes

JN
jeff.nicholas@cwix.com
Sun, Dec 20, 1998 5:57 PM

Terry,

Then there's us guys who are in the 15K range.  Our group surely isn't
pondering whether to mess with a $2,000 fuel polishing system, or which
high dollar rig can tie GPS, e-charts, RADAR and engine montioring
functions to a single display, or if a gas or electric refer is the way to
go...in fact, we might be lucky to just have the time and resources to get
out on the water for a day or two once a month with a half tank of gas,
roadmap and a cooler.

Much of the time, the only commonality between 'them' and me is we're both
speaking boat - but even if the topics are often not relevant to my kind of
boating, I'd much rather be in a room with TrawlerWorld listees than anyone
else.

To be sure, there are folks out there in the under 50k catagory...you can
find information at rec.boats or rec.boats.cruising if you want to wade
through all the whining and flames.  But try sticking around here for
awhile -- some of these 'big' guys on TW did have smaller pockets at one
time and you'll likely find as I did, that most of them are eager and
willing to take time out from their 'dream world'  lives to share
information with any fellow boater who has specific questions.

Nick in Spartanburg, SC

PS
You mentioned invaluable information on pumps.  I'm doing an informal study
on which brand of milk jug makes the best bailing bucket backup for my RULE
360.  Do you think the list would be interested in my findings?


From: TERRY CARR 398-0901 TCARR@a1.stim.tec.tn.us
To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Subject: Sour Grapes vs. No Grapes
Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 10:00 AM

       Pardon me, guys, but sometimes I feel like I got on the wrong 
       merry-go-round with all this talk of less than 200K, etc.
       
       First, let me say I really enjoy hearing all the sea stories

from

       you guys tooling around in the pocket battleships out there and

all

       of the cruising spots you get to go to.  In my dreams, I guess.
       And, the tips I've been getting on pumps, etc., are invaluable!
       
       I just wondered if there is anybody on this internet site who 
       thinks less than 50K, or I'm I the only poor boy on this thing?

I

       make no appoligies for my wife and I choosing education for 
       careers, but it makes the kind of things a lot of you do, just 
       pipedreams for us.
       
       My bottom line, semi-displacement nineteen year old trawler is 
       gradually coming on line, and will be ready to go by this

summer

       and hopefully after a couple of break-in cruises, I'll hit the

salt

       water(this boat was in the salt most of it's life, but thank

God

       the first two owners were caring and kept their maintenance up

to

       snuff.  It was just the last two turkeys that let it go.  Glad

they

       only had it for a total of four years and that was in fresh

water.)

       Oh well, Merry Christmas.  I just had to get that said.
       
       Terry
       
       KAYO III
Terry, Then there's us guys who are in the 15K range. Our group surely isn't pondering whether to mess with a $2,000 fuel polishing system, or which high dollar rig can tie GPS, e-charts, RADAR and engine montioring functions to a single display, or if a gas or electric refer is the way to go...in fact, we might be lucky to just have the time and resources to get out on the water for a day or two once a month with a half tank of gas, roadmap and a cooler. Much of the time, the only commonality between 'them' and me is we're both speaking boat - but even if the topics are often not relevant to my kind of boating, I'd much rather be in a room with TrawlerWorld listees than anyone else. To be sure, there are folks out there in the under 50k catagory...you can find information at rec.boats or rec.boats.cruising if you want to wade through all the whining and flames. But try sticking around here for awhile -- some of these 'big' guys on TW did have smaller pockets at one time and you'll likely find as I did, that most of them are eager and willing to take time out from their 'dream world' lives to share information with any fellow boater who has specific questions. Nick in Spartanburg, SC PS You mentioned invaluable information on pumps. I'm doing an informal study on which brand of milk jug makes the best bailing bucket backup for my RULE 360. Do you think the list would be interested in my findings? ---------- > From: TERRY CARR 398-0901 <TCARR@a1.stim.tec.tn.us> > To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com > Subject: Sour Grapes vs. No Grapes > Date: Sunday, December 20, 1998 10:00 AM > > Pardon me, guys, but sometimes I feel like I got on the wrong > merry-go-round with all this talk of less than 200K, etc. > > First, let me say I really enjoy hearing all the sea stories from > you guys tooling around in the pocket battleships out there and all > of the cruising spots you get to go to. In my dreams, I guess. > And, the tips I've been getting on pumps, etc., are invaluable! > > I just wondered if there is anybody on this internet site who > thinks less than 50K, or I'm I the only poor boy on this thing? I > make no appoligies for my wife and I choosing education for > careers, but it makes the kind of things a lot of you do, just > pipedreams for us. > > My bottom line, semi-displacement nineteen year old trawler is > gradually coming on line, and will be ready to go by this summer > and hopefully after a couple of break-in cruises, I'll hit the salt > water(this boat was in the salt most of it's life, but thank God > the first two owners were caring and kept their maintenance up to > snuff. It was just the last two turkeys that let it go. Glad they > only had it for a total of four years and that was in fresh water.) > > Oh well, Merry Christmas. I just had to get that said. > > Terry > > KAYO III
B
baumgart@starrstuff.com
Mon, Dec 21, 1998 6:34 PM

At 12:57 PM 12/20/98 -0500, you wrote:

Terry,

Then there's us guys who are in the 15K range.

I don't think you're on the right list, for $15K you can get started working on restoring a decent cruising sailboat.

I believe if you're willing to work you can get a coastal cruising powerboat with good prospects for $50K.  You are going to end up spending or working to put in enough value to get the boat price up to around $90K.  That is what we have done and we have a boat that can take a family of 4 for a month long coastal cruise at 15 knots for 300 miles or 7 knots for 600 miles.

Keeping such a boat costs around $1300/month in southern CA.  Payments, slip fees, insurance, fuel and maintenance items.  Note that is more than your purchase price per year.  However, it qualifies as our weekend house and supplies all our vacations.  Plus I enjoy doing all the work myself.  If I paid to have the teak revarnished (for example), God only knows how much $ per month.

When you die you can't take your money with you but maybe you can take your cruising memories so I say go for it.

<bigger>So many islands, so little time.....

Indiscipline </bigger><smaller>- 1985 Wellcraft 35 Californian

</smaller>http://www.starrstuff.com/jim/indy.html

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At 12:57 PM 12/20/98 -0500, you wrote: >Terry, > >Then there's us guys who are in the 15K range. I don't think you're on the right list, for $15K you can get started working on restoring a decent cruising sailboat. I believe if you're willing to work you can get a coastal cruising powerboat with good prospects for $50K. You are going to end up spending or working to put in enough value to get the boat price up to around $90K. That is what we have done and we have a boat that can take a family of 4 for a month long coastal cruise at 15 knots for 300 miles or 7 knots for 600 miles. Keeping such a boat costs around $1300/month in southern CA. Payments, slip fees, insurance, fuel and maintenance items. Note that is more than your purchase price per year. However, it qualifies as our weekend house and supplies all our vacations. Plus I enjoy doing all the work myself. If I paid to have the teak revarnished (for example), God only knows how much $ per month. When you die you can't take your money with you but maybe you can take your cruising memories so I say go for it. <bigger>So many islands, so little time..... Indiscipline </bigger><smaller>- 1985 Wellcraft 35 Californian </smaller>http://www.starrstuff.com/jim/indy.html <<")))>><<