trawlers@lists.trawlering.com

TRAWLERS & TRAWLERING LIST

View all threads

Re: T&T: Airing up the dink - hard-sided dink adherents may

RG
Rich Gano
Thu, Jan 10, 2008 3:10 PM

"Raising the dink (even a light weight one) that is on top, will adversely
affect the boats center of gravity. Hope you have fin stabilizers other wise
you are going to roll more then you did."

Boats, I assume this is a joke right?

My dink with motor weighs right at 180 pounds and is still below the level
of the flying bridge.  I weigh more than that.  Do I need to activate my
non-existent stabilizers every time I go the FB?  Or, I could counteract the
metacentric height change by staying at the lower station in heavy weather.
:)

Being an ex-salvage ship skipper, I have the information at hand to do the
change of metacentric height calcs, but some weight moves are too trivial,
especially 180 pounds at 22 inches on a 40,000-pound boat.

Rich Gano
CALYPSO (GB-42-295)
Southport, FL

"Raising the dink (even a light weight one) that is on top, will adversely affect the boats center of gravity. Hope you have fin stabilizers other wise you are going to roll more then you did." Boats, I assume this is a joke right? My dink with motor weighs right at 180 pounds and is still below the level of the flying bridge. I weigh more than that. Do I need to activate my non-existent stabilizers every time I go the FB? Or, I could counteract the metacentric height change by staying at the lower station in heavy weather. :) Being an ex-salvage ship skipper, I have the information at hand to do the change of metacentric height calcs, but some weight moves are too trivial, especially 180 pounds at 22 inches on a 40,000-pound boat. Rich Gano CALYPSO (GB-42-295) Southport, FL
VN
Vance Nelson
Thu, Jan 10, 2008 3:52 PM

Actually having the dinghy on top is an asset:

  1. The weight of the dinghy will cause your vessel to ride lower in the
    water reducing the slap on the hard chines when waves are not directly from
    the bow.
  2. The viscosity of the water will tend to grab the hull since it is now
    deeper in the water and keep it from rolling as much as an empty vessel.
  3. The dinghy is ready and more available on top in case of your vessel
    sinking.
  4. We carried our 10' Avon Rover with 8HP engine on the top of our Grand
    Banks 32 for most of the 7350 miles on the loop with no noticeable effect.
  5. Just kidding on all but #4.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Gano" richgano@gmail.com
To: robinsdreamboat@hotmail.com
Cc: "Trawlers-and-Trawlering" trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Airing up the dink - hard-sided dink adherents may

"Raising the dink (even a light weight one) that is on top, will adversely
affect the boats center of gravity. Hope you have fin stabilizers other
wise
you are going to roll more then you did."

Boats, I assume this is a joke right?

My dink with motor weighs right at 180 pounds and is still below the level
of the flying bridge.  I weigh more than that.  Do I need to activate my
non-existent stabilizers every time I go the FB?  Or, I could counteract
the
metacentric height change by staying at the lower station in heavy
weather.
:)

Being an ex-salvage ship skipper, I have the information at hand to do the
change of metacentric height calcs, but some weight moves are too trivial,
especially 180 pounds at 22 inches on a 40,000-pound boat.

Rich Gano
CALYPSO (GB-42-295)
Southport, FL


http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering

To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change
email address, etc) go to:
http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering

Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World
Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

Actually having the dinghy on top is an asset: 1. The weight of the dinghy will cause your vessel to ride lower in the water reducing the slap on the hard chines when waves are not directly from the bow. 2. The viscosity of the water will tend to grab the hull since it is now deeper in the water and keep it from rolling as much as an empty vessel. 3. The dinghy is ready and more available on top in case of your vessel sinking. 4. We carried our 10' Avon Rover with 8HP engine on the top of our Grand Banks 32 for most of the 7350 miles on the loop with no noticeable effect. 5. Just kidding on all but #4. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Gano" <richgano@gmail.com> To: <robinsdreamboat@hotmail.com> Cc: "Trawlers-and-Trawlering" <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Airing up the dink - hard-sided dink adherents may > "Raising the dink (even a light weight one) that is on top, will adversely > affect the boats center of gravity. Hope you have fin stabilizers other > wise > you are going to roll more then you did." > > Boats, I assume this is a joke right? > > My dink with motor weighs right at 180 pounds and is still below the level > of the flying bridge. I weigh more than that. Do I need to activate my > non-existent stabilizers every time I go the FB? Or, I could counteract > the > metacentric height change by staying at the lower station in heavy > weather. > :) > > Being an ex-salvage ship skipper, I have the information at hand to do the > change of metacentric height calcs, but some weight moves are too trivial, > especially 180 pounds at 22 inches on a 40,000-pound boat. > > Rich Gano > CALYPSO (GB-42-295) > Southport, FL > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
J
janice142
Thu, Jan 10, 2008 3:53 PM

From another list:

Here is some copy from a press release just issued, the first documented
9-1-1 incident for SPOT.

ALASKAN REMOTE LONE-WORKER SAVED BY 9-1-1 MESSAGE FROM GPS SATELLITE
MESSENGER

SPOT Satellite Messenger Sends Distress Message and GPS Location to
Emergency Responders;
First Documented Rescue

MILPITAS, CA. - (January 9, 2008) - Mike Brady, an outdoorsman working
alone maintaining a seasonal lodge over winter, was rescued after using
his SPOTT Satellite Messenger to alert 9-1-1 of his predicament and
location in a remote section of Alaska.

Website:
www.itzcomm.com

Click on the SPOT (left column) -- looks interesting to me, and possible
others as an alternative to high cost satellite telephone service.

>From another list: Here is some copy from a press release just issued, the first documented 9-1-1 incident for SPOT. ALASKAN REMOTE LONE-WORKER SAVED BY 9-1-1 MESSAGE FROM GPS SATELLITE MESSENGER SPOT Satellite Messenger Sends Distress Message and GPS Location to Emergency Responders; First Documented Rescue MILPITAS, CA. - (January 9, 2008) - Mike Brady, an outdoorsman working alone maintaining a seasonal lodge over winter, was rescued after using his SPOTT Satellite Messenger to alert 9-1-1 of his predicament and location in a remote section of Alaska. Website: www.itzcomm.com Click on the SPOT (left column) -- looks interesting to me, and possible others as an alternative to high cost satellite telephone service.
RG
Rich Gano
Thu, Jan 10, 2008 4:13 PM

Hey, Vance.  I have to also be careful when returning to the mother ship in
the dink if there is a really low tide because the boarding ladder will be
too far above the water for me to reach.  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Vance Nelson [mailto:vbnelson@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:53 AM
To: Rich Gano; robinsdreamboat@hotmail.com
Cc: Trawlers-and-Trawlering
Subject: Re: T&T: Airing up the dink - hard-sided dink adherents may

Actually having the dinghy on top is an asset:

  1. The weight of the dinghy will cause your vessel to ride lower in the
    water reducing the slap on the hard chines when waves are not directly from
    the bow.
  2. The viscosity of the water will tend to grab the hull since it is now
    deeper in the water and keep it from rolling as much as an empty vessel.
  3. The dinghy is ready and more available on top in case of your vessel
    sinking.
  4. We carried our 10' Avon Rover with 8HP engine on the top of our Grand
    Banks 32 for most of the 7350 miles on the loop with no noticeable effect.
  5. Just kidding on all but #4.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Gano" richgano@gmail.com
To: robinsdreamboat@hotmail.com
Cc: "Trawlers-and-Trawlering" trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Airing up the dink - hard-sided dink adherents may

"Raising the dink (even a light weight one) that is on top, will adversely
affect the boats center of gravity. Hope you have fin stabilizers other
wise
you are going to roll more then you did."

Boats, I assume this is a joke right?

My dink with motor weighs right at 180 pounds and is still below the level
of the flying bridge.  I weigh more than that.  Do I need to activate my
non-existent stabilizers every time I go the FB?  Or, I could counteract
the
metacentric height change by staying at the lower station in heavy
weather.
:)

Being an ex-salvage ship skipper, I have the information at hand to do the
change of metacentric height calcs, but some weight moves are too trivial,
especially 180 pounds at 22 inches on a 40,000-pound boat.

Rich Gano
CALYPSO (GB-42-295)
Southport, FL


http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering

To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change
email address, etc) go to:
http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering

Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World
Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

Hey, Vance. I have to also be careful when returning to the mother ship in the dink if there is a really low tide because the boarding ladder will be too far above the water for me to reach. :) -----Original Message----- From: Vance Nelson [mailto:vbnelson@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 9:53 AM To: Rich Gano; robinsdreamboat@hotmail.com Cc: Trawlers-and-Trawlering Subject: Re: T&T: Airing up the dink - hard-sided dink adherents may Actually having the dinghy on top is an asset: 1. The weight of the dinghy will cause your vessel to ride lower in the water reducing the slap on the hard chines when waves are not directly from the bow. 2. The viscosity of the water will tend to grab the hull since it is now deeper in the water and keep it from rolling as much as an empty vessel. 3. The dinghy is ready and more available on top in case of your vessel sinking. 4. We carried our 10' Avon Rover with 8HP engine on the top of our Grand Banks 32 for most of the 7350 miles on the loop with no noticeable effect. 5. Just kidding on all but #4. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Gano" <richgano@gmail.com> To: <robinsdreamboat@hotmail.com> Cc: "Trawlers-and-Trawlering" <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:10 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Airing up the dink - hard-sided dink adherents may > "Raising the dink (even a light weight one) that is on top, will adversely > affect the boats center of gravity. Hope you have fin stabilizers other > wise > you are going to roll more then you did." > > Boats, I assume this is a joke right? > > My dink with motor weighs right at 180 pounds and is still below the level > of the flying bridge. I weigh more than that. Do I need to activate my > non-existent stabilizers every time I go the FB? Or, I could counteract > the > metacentric height change by staying at the lower station in heavy > weather. > :) > > Being an ex-salvage ship skipper, I have the information at hand to do the > change of metacentric height calcs, but some weight moves are too trivial, > especially 180 pounds at 22 inches on a 40,000-pound boat. > > Rich Gano > CALYPSO (GB-42-295) > Southport, FL > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.