TWL: Trouble in paradise ///
All: We had a strange thing happen this week. We live in a small town
house complex with about 12 docks located
on what is said to be submerged land "owned" by the state of Florida. we
pay a yearly fee to the state. Last week we had an inspection
of our docks by the State Dept of Environmental Protection. We had a
couple of small problems which can be fixed but the bad one has to do with
a number of our boats extending out past the outer posts
/dolfins. According to them the boats can not be any longer then the
length of the slip.
I never heard of this before and I see this situation (boats that don't
fit) common around here all the time.
Our boat extends about 4 feet (mostly due to the dinghy).
Have any of you come across this before what did you do and do you know a
good lawyer? If this turns out to be a "real" problem a lot of us are in
trouble.
We hear that rumble around here about every 7-8 years or so. Ours comes from
the marina and they blame the insurance company. Methinks it's just a scam
to get everybody to move to larger (read: more expensive) piers. They bitch
and whine and threaten, but never enforce it.
Most folks around here back into the slip. If they ever really got horsey,
most folks could just turn around and hang their anchors over the dock.
Let's see what the insurance company says then, when everybody is banging
their heads and putting eyes out.
More bureaucrats with way too much time on their hands.
Keith
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Health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe DellaFera" samakijoe@adelphia.net
According to them the boats can not be any longer then the
length of the slip.
I never heard of this before and I see this situation (boats that don't
fit) common around here all the time.
Joe, sounds like time to add a 4' extension to your dock. No need to make
it stable or able to hold any weight, just enough to become a rule-beater
for this case.
Bob Peterson
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe DellaFera
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 11:12 AM
To: trawler-world-list@lists.samurai.com
Subject: TWL: Trouble in paradise ///
All: We had a strange thing happen this week. We live in a small town
house complex with about 12 docks located on what is said to be submerged
land "owned" by the state of Florida. We pay a yearly fee to the state.
Last week we had an inspection of our docks by the State Dept of
Environmental Protection. We had a couple of small problems which can be
fixed but the bad one has to do with a number of our boats extending out
past the outer posts/dolfins. According to them the boats can not be any
longer then the
length of the slip. I never heard of this before and I see this situation
(boats that don't
fit) common around here all the time. Our boat extends about 4 feet (mostly
due to the dinghy).
We are going through the process of rebuilding one of our docks at our yacht
club. I am not an expert but I offer this interpretation. We have slips
with the outer pilings extending right to the edge of our bay bottom lease.
In reconfiguring we ended up with a side loader right on the edge of our
lease boundary. The lawyers in our group discussed the fact that this
sideloader would be tempting to have a boat tie up alongside when the docks
were full and that they would not be within the lease area.
In a possible expansion plan we considered applying for a larger lease area
but the same number of slips. It is the number of slips that seems to be
their main concern.
Anyway my suggestion is that maybe you can apply for a slightly larger lease
area for the same configuration of slips. In our club we allow a 10% larger
boat than the slip length. I am not positive about how the law interprets
this.
FWIW
Greg Ha!n
<<<<<<<<<Have any of you come across this before what did you do and do you
know a
good lawyer? If this turns out to be a "real" problem a lot of us are in
trouble.>>>>>>>>>>>>