James, I admit that I also had this thought when I read the thread so far. Smalltalk is much more than Pharo and it would be good to see mor cross-dialect work. E.g. filetree and cypress would be great candidates. Otoh, if you look at the last few years when ESUG was accepted, you see mostly Pharo-related projects. One of the reasons may be that this community had most available mentors. I'd also prefer if ESUG applied, and I'd like to see more cross-dialect work that is of benefit for a broader community. But if we don't step up and propose projects and volunteer to mentor, then it cannot happen, even if it's ESUG that mainly proposes Pharo projects. Here are some project ideas: # coding guidelines for cross-dialect projects and tool support (think slime, rewrite tools etc.) # st-hub integration into more dialects (bi-directional) # cypress implementations for vw, vast, squeak, Dolphin, gst and others # Improvements for jntegrating Seaside with front-end javascript But: who has the time and knowledge to mentor? In last years discussion for project ideas I was told by a mentor that they're not interested in  cross-dialect as a design goal and they concentrate on Pharo first, in order to get at least something done. This is a sensible argument, no matter if I like it. So what can we do a bout it? Joachim Am 11.02.2015 17:30 schrieb James Foster <Smalltalk@JGFoster.net>: > > I’d like to hear a bit more discussion about the choice of a sponsoring organization. I realize that there is an overlap between the ESUG leadership and the Pharo leadership, but I preferred it when there was at least some effort made to have the scope be all of Smalltalk. > > James > > > On Feb 9, 2015, at 10:26 AM, stephane ducasse <stephane.ducasse@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hello Yuriy and dear Smalltalkers. > > > > What do we do for the GSOC. Since last year ESUG was not accepted we are wondering if this is worth to do an ESUG > > submission. Now the pharo board discussed and would like to apply because we feel that this is important to have > > a smalltalk presence at GSOC. So let us know what you think but fast. > > > > Stef > > > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> do we apply for Google Summer of Code this year? > >> > >> Uko > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Esug-list mailing list > >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org > >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org