I've not helped out in the discourse on outrigger based stabilizers because I don't have a website where someone can see our boat. (but if anyone wants to offer any advise on how to start my own website, please feel free.) Keith, I think, was looking for ideas on these and I love the ones on our trawler and would be very happy to send pics of them and offer advise on what I would do differently if I could start from scratch. Our boat was custom built by a very small boatyard in the Chesapeake Bay back in 1969. She's a 62', all steel, pilothouse up, trawler yacht that weighs about 70tons. She's plenty top heavy and at about 22' off the water in the pilothouse, in 12-14' quartering seas, we've been plenty greatful for our stabilizers. I believe that they work so well because the outriggers working span about 33' from the center of the boat when deployed. That's a lot of leverage. If someone can tell me an easy way to make pics available, I'll be happy to help out. Hope I can help, John Stone & Susan Demesquita Aboard MY "Mariah" Gwynn's Island Trawler,62