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Re: T&T: Connecting chain links - also some windlass & chain problems and solutions

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Steven Dubnoff
Thu, Aug 21, 2008 7:17 PM

So, if any of you are experiencing slipping chain on your gypsy, you might
want to have a look at the diameter of the chain and the size of the slot on
your gypsy.

I would say the big question here is why Ideal mis-designed in the
gypsy in the first place, or, if the gypsy was ok for "standard"
chain, why Ideal did not at least suggest that you measure your chain
before selling you a new part.

Steve

>So, if any of you are experiencing slipping chain on your gypsy, you might >want to have a look at the diameter of the chain and the size of the slot on >your gypsy. I would say the big question here is why Ideal mis-designed in the gypsy in the first place, or, if the gypsy was ok for "standard" chain, why Ideal did not at least suggest that you measure your chain before selling you a new part. Steve
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Ron Rogers
Thu, Aug 21, 2008 8:53 PM

I agree. I wonder if this is a case of imported metric chain or a
Taiwan-built boat that came with metric chain. I'll stick to ACCO (now owned
by a conglomerate in Wisconsin or Minnesota). When I was buying a Lofrans
windlass several years ago, both the store and the distributor were all over
me to ensure that my unusual, ACCO 3/8" BBB, HT chain (embossed with the
letters S-L for Simpson Lawrence) would fit their gypsy. Finally, I took a 6
link sample to the store and draped it over the display gypsy - it fit.

Therefore, my contribution is to supply the manufacturer or distributor with
a sample piece of your chain prior to buying a windlass or a replacement
part. BTW, forget bolt cutters, use a hacksaw blade!

Ron Rogers

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Dubnoff
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:17 PM
To: Scott H.E. Welch

So, if any of you are experiencing slipping chain on your gypsy, you might
want to have a look at the diameter of the chain and the size of the slot

on

your gypsy.

I would say the big question here is why Ideal mis-designed in the
gypsy in the first place, or, if the gypsy was ok for "standard"
chain, why Ideal did not at least suggest that you measure your chain
before selling you a new part.

Steve

I agree. I wonder if this is a case of imported metric chain or a Taiwan-built boat that came with metric chain. I'll stick to ACCO (now owned by a conglomerate in Wisconsin or Minnesota). When I was buying a Lofrans windlass several years ago, both the store and the distributor were all over me to ensure that my unusual, ACCO 3/8" BBB, HT chain (embossed with the letters S-L for Simpson Lawrence) would fit their gypsy. Finally, I took a 6 link sample to the store and draped it over the display gypsy - it fit. Therefore, my contribution is to supply the manufacturer or distributor with a sample piece of your chain prior to buying a windlass or a replacement part. BTW, forget bolt cutters, use a hacksaw blade! Ron Rogers -----Original Message----- From: Steven Dubnoff Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 3:17 PM To: Scott H.E. Welch >So, if any of you are experiencing slipping chain on your gypsy, you might >want to have a look at the diameter of the chain and the size of the slot on >your gypsy. I would say the big question here is why Ideal mis-designed in the gypsy in the first place, or, if the gypsy was ok for "standard" chain, why Ideal did not at least suggest that you measure your chain before selling you a new part. Steve
SH
Scott H.E. Welch
Fri, Aug 22, 2008 12:10 AM

I agree. I wonder if this is a case of imported metric chain or a
Taiwan-built boat that came with metric chain.

Nope, IE was built in San Diego in 1964.

Therefore, my contribution is to supply the manufacturer or distributor with
a sample piece of your chain prior to buying a windlass or a replacement
part. BTW, forget bolt cutters, use a hacksaw blade!

Yes, I probably should have done that.

Scott Welch
FirstClass Product Manager
www.firstclass.com

Those who make no mistakes rarely make anything.

<rcrogers6@kennett.net> writes: >I agree. I wonder if this is a case of imported metric chain or a >Taiwan-built boat that came with metric chain. Nope, IE was built in San Diego in 1964. > > >Therefore, my contribution is to supply the manufacturer or distributor with >a sample piece of your chain prior to buying a windlass or a replacement >part. BTW, forget bolt cutters, use a hacksaw blade! Yes, I probably should have done that. Scott Welch FirstClass Product Manager www.firstclass.com Those who make no mistakes rarely make anything.