Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk lecture in Africa

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Nowak, Helge
Fri, Jul 6, 2012 10:08 AM

Dear Stef,

what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel?

Cheers
Helge

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40
An: Stéphane Ducasse
Cc: ESUG Mailing list
Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message:

ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture.

Stef


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Dear Stef, what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel? Cheers Helge -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 An: Stéphane Ducasse Cc: ESUG Mailing list Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message: ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture. Stef _______________________________________________ Esug-list mailing list Esug-list@lists.esug.org http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
SD
Stéphane Ducasse
Thu, Jul 12, 2012 6:18 AM

Dear Stef,

what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it?

A starter and a bit more advanced lecture: like the ones I did at Timisoara and Turino or Alex did in another city in Romania.
Check my lectures website. I also did one in switzerland in the past in a fachhoschule. And the idea is that we give also the lecture material so that people can
redo after us the lecture.

Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel?

Not really for now.
Note that we do not pay the lecture. So in my case I always did the lecture for free. ESUG payed some of the trip expenses and my
team budget often participated to the rest.

Stef

Cheers
Helge

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40
An: Stéphane Ducasse
Cc: ESUG Mailing list
Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message:

ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture.

Stef


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> Dear Stef, > > what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? A starter and a bit more advanced lecture: like the ones I did at Timisoara and Turino or Alex did in another city in Romania. Check my lectures website. I also did one in switzerland in the past in a fachhoschule. And the idea is that we give also the lecture material so that people can redo after us the lecture. > Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel? Not really for now. Note that we do not pay the lecture. So in my case I always did the lecture for free. ESUG payed some of the trip expenses and my team budget often participated to the rest. Stef > > Cheers > Helge > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 > An: Stéphane Ducasse > Cc: ESUG Mailing list > Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium > > BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message: > > ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
SD
Stéphane Ducasse
Thu, Jul 12, 2012 6:26 AM

BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the lectures for free.
Because at the end this does not count.
This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I should work on something
else.

When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when
I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this community, this makes me really think.
After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should have just run after money.
I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really changing the world and Smalltalk does not
look in the picture.

Stef

On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Nowak, Helge wrote:

Dear Stef,

what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel?

Cheers
Helge

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40
An: Stéphane Ducasse
Cc: ESUG Mailing list
Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium

BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message:

ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture.

Stef


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BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the lectures for free. Because at the end this does not count. This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I should work on something else. When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this community, this makes me really think. After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should have just run after money. I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really changing the world and Smalltalk does not look in the picture. Stef On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Nowak, Helge wrote: > Dear Stef, > > what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the travel? > > Cheers > Helge > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane Ducasse > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 > An: Stéphane Ducasse > Cc: ESUG Mailing list > Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo Consortium > > BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take the advantage to get the following message: > > ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you happened to know good university that would be interested we would like to sponsor a lecture. > > Stef > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
DH
Dale Henrichs
Thu, Jul 12, 2012 3:54 PM

Stef,

It was C++ in the 80's and early 90's ... then java ... then ruby ... now javascript:)

You're not doing it for the money:) ... you're not doing it for the fame and glory:) ... you're doing it because it is your passion!

Keep up the good work and follow your passion...

Dale

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Stéphane Ducasse" stephane.ducasse@inria.fr
| To: "Helge Nowak" hnowak@cincom.com
| Cc: "ESUG Mailing list" esug-list@lists.esug.org
| Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:26:11 PM
| Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk lecture in Africa
|
| BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the
| lectures for free.
| Because at the end this does not count.
| This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I
| should work on something
| else.
|
| When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the
| pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when
| I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this
| community, this makes me really think.
| After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should
| have just run after money.
| I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really
| changing the world and Smalltalk does not
| look in the picture.
|
| Stef
|
|
|
| On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Nowak, Helge wrote:
|
| > Dear Stef,
| >
| > what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or,
| > are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the
| > travel?
| >
| > Cheers
| > Helge
| >
| > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
| > Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org
| > [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane
| > Ducasse
| > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40
| > An: Stéphane Ducasse
| > Cc: ESUG Mailing list
| > Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo
| > Consortium
| >
| > BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take
| > the advantage to get the following message:
| >
| > ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you
| > happened to know good university that would be interested we would
| > like to sponsor a lecture.
| >
| > Stef
| > _______________________________________________
| > Esug-list mailing list
| > Esug-list@lists.esug.org
| > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
| >
| > _______________________________________________
| > Esug-list mailing list
| > Esug-list@lists.esug.org
| > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org
|
|
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Stef, It was C++ in the 80's and early 90's ... then java ... then ruby ... now javascript:) You're not doing it for the money:) ... you're not doing it for the fame and glory:) ... you're doing it because it is your passion! Keep up the good work and follow your passion... Dale ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Stéphane Ducasse" <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> | To: "Helge Nowak" <hnowak@cincom.com> | Cc: "ESUG Mailing list" <esug-list@lists.esug.org> | Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 11:26:11 PM | Subject: Re: [Esug-list] Smalltalk lecture in Africa | | BTW note that this was probably a mistake to do all this work and the | lectures for free. | Because at the end this does not count. | This is the same for the books I wrote. May be I'm too stupid and I | should work on something | else. | | When I see how people react when we talk about participating to the | pharo consortium for about 4000 K and when | I see the amount of time we spent pushing smalltalk and helping this | community, this makes me really think. | After all may be aiming for a better system is not good, I should | have just run after money. | I think that now with JavaScript dynamic languages will be really | changing the world and Smalltalk does not | look in the picture. | | Stef | | | | On Jul 6, 2012, at 12:08 PM, Nowak, Helge wrote: | | > Dear Stef, | > | > what kind of lecture would that be and who will be doing it? Or, | > are you also looking for a lecturer that you'd like to fund the | > travel? | > | > Cheers | > Helge | > | > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- | > Von: esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org | > [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Stéphane | > Ducasse | > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Juli 2012 21:40 | > An: Stéphane Ducasse | > Cc: ESUG Mailing list | > Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] ESUG considers sponsoring the Pharo | > Consortium | > | > BTW since people are reading this nice thread I would like to take | > the advantage to get the following message: | > | > ESUG would like to get some lectures done in Afrika. If you | > happened to know good university that would be interested we would | > like to sponsor a lecture. | > | > Stef | > _______________________________________________ | > Esug-list mailing list | > Esug-list@lists.esug.org | > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Esug-list mailing list | > Esug-list@lists.esug.org | > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org | | | _______________________________________________ | Esug-list mailing list | Esug-list@lists.esug.org | http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org |