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Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

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Michael Scheliga
Wed, Mar 4, 2009 10:38 PM

"Gaffa tape" is Gaffer's tape.  From the production electricians in film
and television studios.  It's usually fabric and flat colors to blend in
with sets and floors.  It is usually stronger than duct tape, tears
easier, and costs more.  The good stuff also leaves less residue behind
when removed, if not left on too long.

Mike

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From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]

On

Behalf Of Stan W1LE
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:36 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

Actually it is "duct"  tape.

Used to air seal the metal joints in a metal duct work system for heat
and AC.

New building codes require a mastic paint be applied over all metal
joints in the duct work system.
I guess it is an energy conservation issue, so the processed air does
not leak into unintended spaces.

Stan,W1LE

Chuck Harris wrote:

Bill Hawkins wrote:
...

Speaking of conversions, I grew up (since 1938) with movie credits

that

mentioned the Gaffer (head electrician). Last year I mentored

students

building a robot for a FIRST Robotics competition. The carpet on

the

field would be marked with red, black, and white gaffer's tape,

which we

got in 2 inch width from a theater supply place. Gaffer's tape is
intended to hold down wires running across a set until the show

closes.

Where did Gaffa tape come from?

Probably from the same place as Duck tape.

Human ears trying to make sense out of what they hear.

-Chuck Harris


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"Gaffa tape" is Gaffer's tape. From the production electricians in film and television studios. It's usually fabric and flat colors to blend in with sets and floors. It is usually stronger than duct tape, tears easier, and costs more. The good stuff also leaves less residue behind when removed, if not left on too long. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Stan W1LE > Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:36 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem > > Actually it is "duct" tape. > > Used to air seal the metal joints in a metal duct work system for heat > and AC. > > New building codes require a mastic paint be applied over all metal > joints in the duct work system. > I guess it is an energy conservation issue, so the processed air does > not leak into unintended spaces. > > Stan,W1LE > > > Chuck Harris wrote: > > Bill Hawkins wrote: > > ... > > > >> Speaking of conversions, I grew up (since 1938) with movie credits > that > >> mentioned the Gaffer (head electrician). Last year I mentored > students > >> building a robot for a FIRST Robotics competition. The carpet on the > >> field would be marked with red, black, and white gaffer's tape, > which we > >> got in 2 inch width from a theater supply place. Gaffer's tape is > >> intended to hold down wires running across a set until the show > closes. > >> > >> Where did Gaffa tape come from? > >> > > > > Probably from the same place as Duck tape. > > > > Human ears trying to make sense out of what they hear. > > > > -Chuck Harris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi- > bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi- > bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
NM
Neville Michie
Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:05 AM

Another, maybe the original tape, was called 100 Miles per Hour Tape
and was sold years after fabric
covered aircraft wings went out of style as it was so universally
useful.
As the name suggests it was rated for repair of aircraft fabric to be
used up to speeds of 100 MPH.
cheers, Neville Michie

PS. I have a type 36 post office clock running and it has a
synchronising relay that forces the phase
of the 30 second output pulses to the nearest 2 seconds, by rotating
the count wheel which has a cardioid cam.
At a fixed time every day this relay was energised from the central
site to correct any phase creep in the
clocks in the regional post offices. I have occasionally thought of
linking it to a GPS time source.
cheers, NM

On 05/03/2009, at 9:38 AM, Michael Scheliga wrote:

"Gaffa tape" is Gaffer's tape.  From the production electricians in
film
and television studios.  It's usually fabric and flat colors to
blend in
with sets and floors.  It is usually stronger than duct tape, tears
easier, and costs more.  The good stuff also leaves less residue
behind
when removed, if not left on too long.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]

On

Behalf Of Stan W1LE
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:36 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

Actually it is "duct"  tape.

Used to air seal the metal joints in a metal duct work system for
heat
and AC.

New building codes require a mastic paint be applied over all metal
joints in the duct work system.
I guess it is an energy conservation issue, so the processed air does
not leak into unintended spaces.

Stan,W1LE

Chuck Harris wrote:

Bill Hawkins wrote:
...

Speaking of conversions, I grew up (since 1938) with movie credits

that

mentioned the Gaffer (head electrician). Last year I mentored

students

building a robot for a FIRST Robotics competition. The carpet on

the

field would be marked with red, black, and white gaffer's tape,

which we

got in 2 inch width from a theater supply place. Gaffer's tape is
intended to hold down wires running across a set until the show

closes.

Where did Gaffa tape come from?

Probably from the same place as Duck tape.

Human ears trying to make sense out of what they hear.

-Chuck Harris


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Another, maybe the original tape, was called 100 Miles per Hour Tape and was sold years after fabric covered aircraft wings went out of style as it was so universally useful. As the name suggests it was rated for repair of aircraft fabric to be used up to speeds of 100 MPH. cheers, Neville Michie PS. I have a type 36 post office clock running and it has a synchronising relay that forces the phase of the 30 second output pulses to the nearest 2 seconds, by rotating the count wheel which has a cardioid cam. At a fixed time every day this relay was energised from the central site to correct any phase creep in the clocks in the regional post offices. I have occasionally thought of linking it to a GPS time source. cheers, NM On 05/03/2009, at 9:38 AM, Michael Scheliga wrote: > "Gaffa tape" is Gaffer's tape. From the production electricians in > film > and television studios. It's usually fabric and flat colors to > blend in > with sets and floors. It is usually stronger than duct tape, tears > easier, and costs more. The good stuff also leaves less residue > behind > when removed, if not left on too long. > > Mike > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] > On >> Behalf Of Stan W1LE >> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:36 PM >> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem >> >> Actually it is "duct" tape. >> >> Used to air seal the metal joints in a metal duct work system for >> heat >> and AC. >> >> New building codes require a mastic paint be applied over all metal >> joints in the duct work system. >> I guess it is an energy conservation issue, so the processed air does >> not leak into unintended spaces. >> >> Stan,W1LE >> >> >> Chuck Harris wrote: >>> Bill Hawkins wrote: >>> ... >>> >>>> Speaking of conversions, I grew up (since 1938) with movie credits >> that >>>> mentioned the Gaffer (head electrician). Last year I mentored >> students >>>> building a robot for a FIRST Robotics competition. The carpet on > the >>>> field would be marked with red, black, and white gaffer's tape, >> which we >>>> got in 2 inch width from a theater supply place. Gaffer's tape is >>>> intended to hold down wires running across a set until the show >> closes. >>>> >>>> Where did Gaffa tape come from? >>>> >>> >>> Probably from the same place as Duck tape. >>> >>> Human ears trying to make sense out of what they hear. >>> >>> -Chuck Harris >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi- >> bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi- >> bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/ > time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
SR
Steve Rooke
Thu, Mar 5, 2009 3:54 AM

2009/3/5 Neville Michie namichie@gmail.com:

PS. I have a type 36 post office clock running and it has a
synchronising relay that forces the phase
of the 30 second output pulses to the nearest 2 seconds, by rotating
the count wheel which has a cardioid cam.
At a fixed time every day this relay was energised from the central
site to correct any phase creep in the
clocks in the regional post offices. I have occasionally thought of
linking it to a GPS time source.

That's an interesting idea and I wonder if it's easier to correct the
clock at intervals than closely synchronise it. Food for thought,
thanks.

73, Steve

Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD & JAKDTTNW
Omnium finis imminet

2009/3/5 Neville Michie <namichie@gmail.com>: > PS. I have a type 36 post office clock running and it has a > synchronising relay that forces the phase > of the 30 second output pulses to the nearest 2 seconds, by rotating > the count wheel which has a cardioid cam. > At a fixed time every day this relay was energised from the central > site to correct any phase creep in the > clocks in the regional post offices. I have occasionally thought of > linking it to a GPS time source. That's an interesting idea and I wonder if it's easier to correct the clock at intervals than closely synchronise it. Food for thought, thanks. 73, Steve -- Steve Rooke - ZL3TUV & G8KVD & JAKDTTNW Omnium finis imminet
DB
Dave Brown
Thu, Mar 5, 2009 10:48 AM

For all those out there who don't have your own BPO 36 master clock,
here is a youtube video that shows the detail of the Hipp toggle in
action. The Hipp is the key to these clocks excellent time keeping.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmx5iy4qwhI

Yes I know, the sound track IS horrible! But you can hear most of the
ticks... Not my video, I hasten to add..

For more info on the Hipp toggle,  just google and all will be
revealed.

DaveB, NZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neville Michie" namichie@gmail.com
To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement"
time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem

Another, maybe the original tape, was called 100 Miles per Hour Tape
and was sold years after fabric
covered aircraft wings went out of style as it was so universally
useful.
As the name suggests it was rated for repair of aircraft fabric to
be
used up to speeds of 100 MPH.
cheers, Neville Michie

PS. I have a type 36 post office clock running and it has a
synchronising relay that forces the phase
of the 30 second output pulses to the nearest 2 seconds, by rotating
the count wheel which has a cardioid cam.
At a fixed time every day this relay was energised from the central
site to correct any phase creep in the
clocks in the regional post offices. I have occasionally thought of
linking it to a GPS time source.
cheers, NM

For all those out there who don't have your own BPO 36 master clock, here is a youtube video that shows the detail of the Hipp toggle in action. The Hipp is the key to these clocks excellent time keeping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmx5iy4qwhI Yes I know, the sound track IS horrible! But you can hear most of the ticks... Not my video, I hasten to add.. For more info on the Hipp toggle, just google and all will be revealed. DaveB, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neville Michie" <namichie@gmail.com> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS antenna installation problem > Another, maybe the original tape, was called 100 Miles per Hour Tape > and was sold years after fabric > covered aircraft wings went out of style as it was so universally > useful. > As the name suggests it was rated for repair of aircraft fabric to > be > used up to speeds of 100 MPH. > cheers, Neville Michie > > PS. I have a type 36 post office clock running and it has a > synchronising relay that forces the phase > of the 30 second output pulses to the nearest 2 seconds, by rotating > the count wheel which has a cardioid cam. > At a fixed time every day this relay was energised from the central > site to correct any phase creep in the > clocks in the regional post offices. I have occasionally thought of > linking it to a GPS time source. > cheers, NM