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Administrivia: Trimming Quoted Messages

JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 12:58 AM

Hi Folks --

We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of
reply and counter-reply.  They make great reading, but particularly when
posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll
through to find the new material.  We have a thread now where there are
some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content.

When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's
not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier
parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the
reply.  That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read.

I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs.
interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war!

Thanks!

John

Hi Folks -- We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of reply and counter-reply. They make great reading, but particularly when posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll through to find the new material. We have a thread now where there are some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content. When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the reply. That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read. I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs. interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war! Thanks! John
JR
Jason Rabel
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 2:22 AM

John,

A little side-topic that I've had in the back of my head for a while. Has
there been any discussion about maybe starting up a wiki and / or forum?
Maybe we could even carve out our own corner of the wikipedia if nobody
wants to run a wiki locally? There's so much great info that people provide
in these conversations and put on their own websites, but there's no
organization.

Jason

We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of
reply and counter-reply.  They make great reading, but particularly when
posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll
through to find the new material.  We have a thread now where there are
some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content.

When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's
not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier
parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the
reply.  That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read.

I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs.
interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war!

John, A little side-topic that I've had in the back of my head for a while. Has there been any discussion about maybe starting up a wiki and / or forum? Maybe we could even carve out our own corner of the wikipedia if nobody wants to run a wiki locally? There's so much great info that people provide in these conversations and put on their own websites, but there's no organization. Jason > We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of > reply and counter-reply. They make great reading, but particularly when > posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll > through to find the new material. We have a thread now where there are > some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content. > > When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's > not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier > parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the > reply. That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read. > > I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs. > interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war!
JM
John Miles
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 2:24 AM

I have been tempted to call out one fellow in particular about that, but his
replies are always so interesting and informative that I can't bring myself
to do it. :-)

-- john, KE5FX

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]On
Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:58 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Trimming Quoted Messages

Hi Folks --

We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of
reply and counter-reply.  They make great reading, but particularly when
posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll
through to find the new material.  We have a thread now where there are
some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content.

When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's
not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier
parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the
reply.  That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read.

I have been tempted to call out one fellow in particular about that, but his replies are always so interesting and informative that I can't bring myself to do it. :-) -- john, KE5FX -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 4:58 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Trimming Quoted Messages Hi Folks -- We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of reply and counter-reply. They make great reading, but particularly when posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll through to find the new material. We have a thread now where there are some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content. When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the reply. That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read.
DJ
Didier Juges
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 2:36 AM

John Ackermann N8UR wrote:

I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs.
interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war!

Thanks!

John

The only comment I will make about this is that I get my personal mail
forwarded to my company provided Blackberry (BB for short), and when my
personal mail is forwarded to the corporate mail system which runs the
BB, the messages are cut at a certain length and I cannot force the
system to retrieve the rest, so in many cases, when the response is at
the bottom, I do not get it, the message is cut too soon, and then I
have to wait until I am home to get the rest :-(

Other than that, I have no religion and remain flexible :-)

Didier KO4BB

John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs. > interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war! > > Thanks! > > John > The only comment I will make about this is that I get my personal mail forwarded to my company provided Blackberry (BB for short), and when my personal mail is forwarded to the corporate mail system which runs the BB, the messages are cut at a certain length and I cannot force the system to retrieve the rest, so in many cases, when the response is at the bottom, I do not get it, the message is cut too soon, and then I have to wait until I am home to get the rest :-( Other than that, I have no religion and remain flexible :-) Didier KO4BB
NJ
Neon John
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 2:45 AM

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:22:33 -0600, "Jason Rabel"
jason@extremeoverclocking.com wrote:

John,

A little side-topic that I've had in the back of my head for a while. Has
there been any discussion about maybe starting up a wiki and / or forum?
Maybe we could even carve out our own corner of the wikipedia if nobody
wants to run a wiki locally? There's so much great info that people provide
in these conversations and put on their own websites, but there's no
organization.

Nooooooooooo........... Not a forum!  I think I despise forums more
than flash!  A simple archive should suffice, if there isn't one
already.  I'd certainly not be opposed to a Wiki but not as the
primary form of communications.

John

John De Armond
See my website for my current email address
http://www.neon-john.com
Cleveland, Occupied TN
Don't let your schooling interfere with your education-Mark Twain

On Sun, 28 Jan 2007 20:22:33 -0600, "Jason Rabel" <jason@extremeoverclocking.com> wrote: >John, > >A little side-topic that I've had in the back of my head for a while. Has >there been any discussion about maybe starting up a wiki and / or forum? >Maybe we could even carve out our own corner of the wikipedia if nobody >wants to run a wiki locally? There's so much great info that people provide >in these conversations and put on their own websites, but there's no >organization. Nooooooooooo........... Not a forum! I think I despise forums more than flash! A simple archive should suffice, if there isn't one already. I'd certainly not be opposed to a Wiki but not as the primary form of communications. John --- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com Cleveland, Occupied TN Don't let your schooling interfere with your education-Mark Twain
JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 1:00 PM

Jason Rabel said the following on 01/28/2007 09:22 PM:

John,

A little side-topic that I've had in the back of my head for a while. Has
there been any discussion about maybe starting up a wiki and / or forum?
Maybe we could even carve out our own corner of the wikipedia if nobody
wants to run a wiki locally? There's so much great info that people provide
in these conversations and put on their own websites, but there's no
organization.

Hi Jason --

I do have a wiki running now -- www.febo.com/time-nuts which doesn't get
a whole lot of use.  I'd love to see people use it as a shared learning
place.

So, feel free to contribute!

John

Jason Rabel said the following on 01/28/2007 09:22 PM: > John, > > A little side-topic that I've had in the back of my head for a while. Has > there been any discussion about maybe starting up a wiki and / or forum? > Maybe we could even carve out our own corner of the wikipedia if nobody > wants to run a wiki locally? There's so much great info that people provide > in these conversations and put on their own websites, but there's no > organization. Hi Jason -- I do have a wiki running now -- www.febo.com/time-nuts which doesn't get a whole lot of use. I'd love to see people use it as a shared learning place. So, feel free to contribute! John
BH
Bill Hawkins
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 6:19 PM

John,

It all depends on whether or not I can extract a thread from
the archives. I've not tried that. If we have a threads then
there's no reason not to delete the second and further levels,
except lack of knowledge of cursor select and delete.

If the archive isn't threaded, then I do what I do now -
delete the quoted messages from my mailbox. This becomes a
problem when the thread mutates and forks into other threads.
Haven't seen as much of that here as on other lists.

Seems to me the problem of quoting the whole thread is that the
mail server fills up exponentially. That's a real good reason
not to get carried away.

Bill Hawkins

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:58 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Trimming Quoted Messages

Hi Folks --

We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of
reply and counter-reply.  They make great reading, but particularly when
posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll
through to find the new material.  We have a thread now where there are
some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content.

When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's
not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier
parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the
reply.  That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read.

I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs.
interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war!

Thanks!

John


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John, It all depends on whether or not I can extract a thread from the archives. I've not tried that. If we have a threads then there's no reason not to delete the second and further levels, except lack of knowledge of cursor select and delete. If the archive isn't threaded, then I do what I do now - delete the quoted messages from my mailbox. This becomes a problem when the thread mutates and forks into other threads. Haven't seen as much of that here as on other lists. Seems to me the problem of quoting the whole thread is that the mail server fills up exponentially. That's a real good reason not to get carried away. Bill Hawkins -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:58 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Trimming Quoted Messages Hi Folks -- We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of reply and counter-reply. They make great reading, but particularly when posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll through to find the new material. We have a thread now where there are some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content. When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the reply. That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read. I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs. interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war! Thanks! John _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
JA
John Ackermann N8UR
Mon, Jan 29, 2007 6:25 PM

Yes, the archive is threaded.

John

Bill Hawkins said the following on 01/29/2007 01:19 PM:

John,

It all depends on whether or not I can extract a thread from
the archives. I've not tried that. If we have a threads then
there's no reason not to delete the second and further levels,
except lack of knowledge of cursor select and delete.

If the archive isn't threaded, then I do what I do now -
delete the quoted messages from my mailbox. This becomes a
problem when the thread mutates and forks into other threads.
Haven't seen as much of that here as on other lists.

Seems to me the problem of quoting the whole thread is that the
mail server fills up exponentially. That's a real good reason
not to get carried away.

Bill Hawkins

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:58 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Trimming Quoted Messages

Hi Folks --

We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of
reply and counter-reply.  They make great reading, but particularly when
posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll
through to find the new material.  We have a thread now where there are
some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content.

When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's
not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier
parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the
reply.  That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read.

I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs.
interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war!

Thanks!

John


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Yes, the archive is threaded. John ---- Bill Hawkins said the following on 01/29/2007 01:19 PM: > John, > > It all depends on whether or not I can extract a thread from > the archives. I've not tried that. If we have a threads then > there's no reason not to delete the second and further levels, > except lack of knowledge of cursor select and delete. > > If the archive isn't threaded, then I do what I do now - > delete the quoted messages from my mailbox. This becomes a > problem when the thread mutates and forks into other threads. > Haven't seen as much of that here as on other lists. > > Seems to me the problem of quoting the whole thread is that the > mail server fills up exponentially. That's a real good reason > not to get carried away. > > Bill Hawkins > > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of John Ackermann N8UR > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:58 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: [time-nuts] Administrivia: Trimming Quoted Messages > > Hi Folks -- > > We often have long threads here on time-nuts with multiple layers of > reply and counter-reply. They make great reading, but particularly when > posters reply at the bottom of the message, it can become hard to scroll > through to find the new material. We have a thread now where there are > some 200 lines of quoted text before there's any new content. > > When you reply to messages, please consider trimming out material that's > not necessary to create context for the reply; very often the earlier > parts are no longer relevant to the matter that's the subject of the > reply. That will help keep messages shorter and easier to read. > > I'll express no opinion about the merits of top vs. bottom vs. > interspersed quoting; that's a topic for a religious war! > > Thanks! > > John > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >