I'm about to make the big switch from PC to Mac at home. I am considering
doing it onboard as well, but I wonder if I could run Nobeltec Admiral
inside a windows emulator on a new IMac machine with lots of RAM. (I have 9
years experience with it & lots of vector & raster charts) Does anyone do
this...or should I just recognize it as sunk cost & switch to new
designed-for-a-Mac navigation software.
Thanks in advance for any comments,
Craig Mudge
Moon Star
KK 42 #94
Portland, Maine
Any PC software works flawlessly on a MAC with a emulator like Parallels and
VirtualPC (and a few more)
Personnally, I use Parallels and Coastal Explorer on my MAC with great
results. That said, I use it only as a back-up because the MAC laptop is my
main working tool and I don't want to have only one computer for my job and
the boat.
So I bought a mini-PC Toshiba for less than 400$. I won't get disappointed
if anything happens, such as water (or coffee!) on the keyboard or if the
little thing gets hurt like anything can on a boat.
As for solftwares native for the MAC, I have GPSNavX, MacGPS Pro and GPSyPro
and a few others. But I use Coastal Explorer most of the time.
Bryan
I'm about to make the big switch from PC to Mac at home. I am considering
doing it onboard as well, but I wonder if I could run Nobeltec Admiral
inside a windows emulator on a new IMac machine with lots of RAM. (I have 9
years experience with it & lots of vector & raster charts) Does anyone do
this...or should I just recognize it as sunk cost & switch to new
designed-for-a-Mac navigation software.
Thanks in advance for any comments,
Craig Mudge
Moon Star
KK 42 #94
Portland, Maine
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My situation is the same except that I have a small form factor Gateway
rather than the Toshiba. In my experience, marine navigation is the only
software category in which one must make a sacrifice to go pure Mac. I'm
very happy with Coastal Explorer compared with GPSNavX, but Windows 7
crashes and automatically restarts about once every three hours.
Paul
On 5/28/10 10:00 AM, Bryan V. wrote:
Any PC software works flawlessly on a MAC with a emulator like Parallels and
VirtualPC (and a few more)
Personnally, I use Parallels and Coastal Explorer on my MAC with great
results. That said, I use it only as a back-up because the MAC laptop is my
main working tool and I don't want to have only one computer for my job and
the boat.
So I bought a mini-PC Toshiba for less than 400$. I won't get disappointed
if anything happens, such as water (or coffee!) on the keyboard or if the
little thing gets hurt like anything can on a boat.
As for solftwares native for the MAC, I have GPSNavX, MacGPS Pro and GPSyPro
and a few others. But I use Coastal Explorer most of the time.
Bryan
I'm about to make the big switch from PC to Mac at home. I am considering
doing it onboard as well, but I wonder if I could run Nobeltec Admiral
inside a windows emulator on a new IMac machine with lots of RAM. (I have 9
years experience with it& lots of vector& raster charts) Does anyone do
this...or should I just recognize it as sunk cost& switch to new
designed-for-a-Mac navigation software.
Thanks in advance for any comments,
Craig Mudge
Moon Star
KK 42 #94
Portland, Maine
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I had a few crashes until I set up the laptop to "never sleep". In my case,
with XP, the crash was coming from the hard disk or the screen going to
sleep. I have Coastal Explorer "on", sometimes for 10 hours in a row. Up to
date, no more worries.
My situation is the same except that I have a small form factor Gateway
rather than the Toshiba. In my experience, marine navigation is the only
software category in which one must make a sacrifice to go pure Mac. I'm
very happy with Coastal Explorer compared with GPSNavX, but Windows 7
crashes and automatically restarts about once every three hours.
Paul
On 5/28/10 10:00 AM, Bryan V. wrote:
Any PC software works flawlessly on a MAC with a emulator like Parallels and
VirtualPC (and a few more)
Personnally, I use Parallels and Coastal Explorer on my MAC with great
results. That said, I use it only as a back-up because the MAC laptop is my
main working tool and I don't want to have only one computer for my job and
the boat.
So I bought a mini-PC Toshiba for less than 400$. I won't get disappointed
if anything happens, such as water (or coffee!) on the keyboard or if the
little thing gets hurt like anything can on a boat.
As for solftwares native for the MAC, I have GPSNavX, MacGPS Pro and GPSyPro
and a few others. But I use Coastal Explorer most of the time.
Bryan
I'm about to make the big switch from PC to Mac at home. I am considering
doing it onboard as well, but I wonder if I could run Nobeltec Admiral
inside a windows emulator on a new IMac machine with lots of RAM. (I have 9
years experience with it& lots of vector& raster charts) Does anyone do
this...or should I just recognize it as sunk cost& switch to new
designed-for-a-Mac navigation software.
Thanks in advance for any comments,
Craig Mudge
Moon Star
KK 42 #94
Portland, Maine
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On 5/28/10 10:00 AM, Bryan V. wrote:
Any PC software works flawlessly on a MAC with a emulator like Parallels
and
VirtualPC (and a few more)
I'm not sure I would trust emulation for a critical navigation app. If
you're going to have problems with emulation it's going to be in the drivers
that connect external device, like your 0183 or NMEA 2000 instruments
interface. Not good.
However, Boot Camp --booting your Mac into Windows directly -- is a perfect
solution, because in that case your Mac effectively is a Windows machine.
I use Boot Camp on the two Mac Minis I run at the helm station. They have no
problems with Coastal Explorer, MaxSea Time Zero, Maretron, Airmar
Weathercaster, or external NMEA interfaces from Maretron or Actisense.
/afb
Hi all:
My wife and I just returned from a vacation trip to the British Virgin Islands, where we chartered a 44' twin engine trawler (brand unknown). We chartered from Virgin Traders. A two week charter came to just under $8000 with another $1000 for insurance, phone rental, a day's help with a captain, permits, etc. There were four of us for a week and then my wife and I alone for the second week. We spent $800 on food, beer, wine, water and such. We cooked and ate on the boat with only a couple of exceptions. Anchored or moored almost every night ($25 per night for a mooring). Total fuel for the two weeks was 214 gallons at $3.50 per gallon. As the islands are not far from one another, we did not move great distances, but we did make generous use of the generator for the AC, as it was warm and muggy. According to the people at Virgin Traders, most charters of only a week tend to use about 150+ gallons of fuel.
The trip was fantastic, with gorgeous scenery, beaches, cliffs, amazing snorkeling (turtles, rays, sharks, and a gazillion little fish), though the fishing itself was not that great. (I think we didn't go to the right places.)
We were quite surprised at how few trawlers we encountered: 4 trawler type boats in the course of two weeks. Three were similar charters to our own, and the 4th was a beautiful American Tug. The trawlers were outnumbered by sailboats by probably 40:1. This was our first experience outside the U.S. coastal waters and we were puzzled at the dearth of trawling-type vessels.
If anyone is interested in more information on our experience, please drop me a line.
Jonathan Haas
Jonathon:
I can think of a couple of reasons why there are few trawlers in the
islands. Most boats- trawlers and sailboats are commisioned in Miami/Ft
Lauderdale before they go to the islands. Why- well there just aren't any
high quality riggers and contractors to install the various items, genset
and A/C for two examples.
So once the boat is in Miami, you have to get it to the islands. Most
trawlers don't have the fuel capacity to make that trip. Most don't have the
heavy weather capabilities- strong windows and ballast to keep it upright in
horrible conditions. Almost any sailboat can make that trip reasonably
safely. Not so with trawlers.
But once it gets there a trawler would be preferable to a sailboat IMHO.
David
Snip...
Most trawlers don't have the fuel capacity to make that trip. Most don't have the heavy weather capabilities- strong windows and ballast to keep it upright in horrible conditions. Almost any sailboat can make that trip reasonably safely. Not so with trawlers.
But once it gets there a trawler would be preferable to a sailboat IMHO.
Reply...
Via island hopping the Bahamas chain, Turks, Spanish Virgins almost any boat has the range to make it to the Virgins quite easily. Your point about some trawlers not being seaworthy enough is valid though. Many sailboat are not either though.
As far as trawlers being preferred once they are there, I think the 40:1 ratio sailboats to trawlers does not support thast theory. Certainly if there were demand for trawlers in the BVI then the charter companies would find a way to get more of them there.
I surmise that many go to the islands with a more romantic notion of what chartering should be and a sailboat fits that description better. More and more, it is falling to sail catamarans. Large, stable, sleeps 8, most of the amenities of a trawler but still the romance of sail. Another reason sail is preferred by some, not necessarily the romantic types is the sheer frugality of fuel consumption. Even my ole girl with her 85hp (monster for a sail boat) sips fuel at .75 gal per hr. Add in a continuous use of genset ( I have a 55hp perkins 4-108 genny) and you are still waaaaay below 150 gallons per week.
Just my .02
Joel Wilkins
m/s Miss Magoo
Columbia 45
Indian Rocks Beach, FL
Thanks for the tip Bryan. I'll see if that makes a difference on my machine.
Paul
On 5/28/10 11:32 AM, Bryan V. wrote:
Paul
I had a few crashes until I set up the laptop to "never sleep". In my case,
with XP, the crash was coming from the hard disk or the screen going to
sleep. I have Coastal Explorer "on", sometimes for 10 hours in a row. Up to
date, no more worries.
My situation is the same except that I have a small form factor Gateway
rather than the Toshiba. In my experience, marine navigation is the only
software category in which one must make a sacrifice to go pure Mac. I'm
very happy with Coastal Explorer compared with GPSNavX, but Windows 7
crashes and automatically restarts about once every three hours.
Paul
On 5/28/10 10:00 AM, Bryan V. wrote:
Any PC software works flawlessly on a MAC with a emulator like Parallels and
VirtualPC (and a few more)
Personnally, I use Parallels and Coastal Explorer on my MAC with great
results. That said, I use it only as a back-up because the MAC laptop is my
main working tool and I don't want to have only one computer for my job and
the boat.
So I bought a mini-PC Toshiba for less than 400$. I won't get disappointed
if anything happens, such as water (or coffee!) on the keyboard or if the
little thing gets hurt like anything can on a boat.
As for solftwares native for the MAC, I have GPSNavX, MacGPS Pro and GPSyPro
and a few others. But I use Coastal Explorer most of the time.
Bryan
I'm about to make the big switch from PC to Mac at home. I am considering
doing it onboard as well, but I wonder if I could run Nobeltec Admiral
inside a windows emulator on a new IMac machine with lots of RAM. (I have 9
years experience with it& lots of vector& raster charts) Does anyone do
this...or should I just recognize it as sunk cost& switch to new
designed-for-a-Mac navigation software.
Thanks in advance for any comments,
Craig Mudge
Moon Star
KK 42 #94
Portland, Maine
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Joel's comments about the catamarans is on target in terms of BVI. There
were MANY such boats (all sail) in all the marinas and in the moorings.
These also tended to be the "party" boats with lots of people on board.
We noticed that most of the "sail" boats tended to motor around most of the
time rather than sail. At the same time there was a sense of mild
superiority on the part of the sailors as well as mild jealousy at the
difference in amenities between sailboats and the trawlers.
Jonathan Haas
snip...
I surmise that many go to the islands with a more romantic notion of what
chartering should be and a sailboat fits that description better. More and
more, it is falling to sail catamarans. Large, stable, sleeps 8, most of the
amenities of a trawler but still the romance of sail. Another reason sail is
preferred by some, not necessarily the romantic types is the sheer frugality
of fuel consumption. Even my ole girl with her 85hp (monster for a sail
boat) sips fuel at .75 gal per hr. Add in a continuous use of genset ( I
have a 55hp perkins 4-108 genny) and you are still waaaaay below 150 gallons
per week.
Just my .02
Joel Wilkins
m/s Miss Magoo
Columbia 45
Indian Rocks Beach, FL
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