i just bought an old krogen 42 and am planning some offshore cruising to mexico next year. the boat is now hauled onto the hard and i was wondering if i should drill a half inch hole in the upper aft quarter of the rudder so that if i lost hydraulic steering i could shackle a stainless wire port and starboard for emergency rudder control. or at least keep the rudder amidships so i could point the boat with the bow thruster i am going to install. -- bruce t adornato md krogen 42 amelia

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A call to Krogen should resolve the engineering question. I did exactly that on my Morgan 51 centerboard which weighed 1,500 lbs. The SS cable holding it would break occasionally and the boat drew 10' with the board down so it made sense to have a hole where the board could be winched up. Rudder forces are more severe so the call to the vendor makes sense. Regards.... Phil Rosch Old Harbor Consulting M/V "Curmudgeon" MT44 TC Currently lying Bond Creek, NC

Congrats on yer "new" boat! If you pull the cockpit hatch cover, you will see the top of the "square" rudder shaft. With a Hydraulic bypass of the cylinder, now you can make a "tiller arm" to slip over the top of the shaft and move the rudder. This is my plan and I think other "Krogenites" do as well. I'm sure Keith will weigh in on this. Respectfully, Ken Williams KK42 Continuum ----- Original Message ----- From: "badornato" <adornato@gmail.com> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 9:39 AM Subject: T&T: rudder control >i just bought an old krogen 42 and am planning some offshore cruising > to mexico next year. the boat is now hauled onto the hard and i was > wondering if i should drill a half inch hole in the upper aft quarter > of the rudder so that if i lost hydraulic steering i could shackle a > stainless wire port and starboard for emergency rudder control. > > or at least keep the rudder amidships so i could point the boat with > the bow thruster i am going to install. > > -- > bruce t adornato md > krogen 42 amelia > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe send email to > trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

I think all the Krogens came with a manual tiller arm. Mine is mounted on the forward bulkhead in the lazarette, in two pieces. Check to see if you don't have something like this already. One piece fits over the tiller shaft and is upright, the other fits into the top of that and is used to turn the rudder. It's hard to imagine using, and would require two folks, but could be done. You don't even need to bypass the hydraulics, just pull the pin that connects it to the tiller arm. Keith _____ Local Area Network in Australia: the LAN down under. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken" <matrix8@mindspring.com> > If you pull the cockpit hatch cover, you will see the top of the "square" > rudder shaft. With a Hydraulic bypass of the cylinder, now you can make a > "tiller arm" to slip over the top of the shaft and move the rudder. This > is > my plan and I think other "Krogenites" do as well. > I'm sure Keith will weigh in on this.