Dear All, As promised, the draft by-laws for the new corporation are now on the Song-Yuan website. Please let me know your thoughts and suggestions. Yours truly, Michael

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Michael: We all owe you a massive debt for pulling this together—even if it does involve some cribbing & boilerplate! I do have a few points of concern on specifics (I haven’t gone through the whole doc in detail, so I may have more, but time limits what I can read): Article 3, Section 7:7, Duties of Secretary-Treasurer Current text places duty for collecting dues on Sec-Treas’er. As dues and subscription to JSYS are one and the same, and as Berkeley-IEAS collects them, would it be appropriate to grant the BofD the power to designate and alternative? Art. 4, Section 5: Compensation to the BofD This ought to acknowledge the fiscal limits of SSYS. If SSYS were obligated to provide reimbursement to the BofD for travel to AAS, etc., for formal meetings we would be bankrupt in no time. Art. 4, Section 7: Place of Meetings Mightn’t a required annual meeting of the BofD be in conjunction with AAS, separately and in advance of the SSYS meeting, rather than “at the principle office of the Society”? Just some initial thoughts. HRC Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D. Professor of History & East Asian Studies Ursinus College 610-409-3299 hclark@ursinus.edu From: listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org [mailto:listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] On Behalf Of Michael A. Fuller Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:35 PM To: listserv@songyuan.org Subject: [Song-Yuan Listserv] The Draft By-laws Dear All, As promised, the draft by-laws for the new corporation are now on the Song-Yuan website. Please let me know your thoughts and suggestions. Yours truly, Michael

            Section 2:  Shall we change language in section 2 to make

            Section 6:  I think there should be some discussion of

            Section 7  I concur with Hugh that the “Place of Meetings”

            Since everyone involved will be serving without

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Dear Michael et. al., I second Hugh's thanks to Michael for the organizational work he has taken on. I am pasting in below a few comments based on a quick reading of the proposed bylaws...Best, Beverly Article 1 Section 2: Shall we change language in section 2 to make it easier to change location of principle office? If the Secretary is to keep all records, should the principle office change each time a new person becomes the Secretary? Or (and this can be taken as a motion) shall we simply appoint Michael secretary for life! Article 3 Section 6: I think there should be some discussion of whether the Editor/President offices should be held concurrently. My concern is that the Editorship is already onerous; depending on how much work the job of President requires, it might be asking a lot of one person to handle both jobs. If, however, the Presidential “duties” are primarily running the meeting at AAS, then the concurrent appointment should not be a problem. Section 7 I concur with Hugh that the “Place of Meetings” ought to be changed to AAS. Otherwise, Article 14 seems to say that each year we would have to have a resolution by the board of directors to hold the meeting at AAS. Article 4 Section 3 and Section 10 Notification by telegraph? Maybe that should be email! Article 8 Section 5 Since everyone involved will be serving without compensation, do we need to include the extended discussion of compensation in this section? Article 14 Section 4 Again I’d suggest we stipulate notification by email and/or announcement in the AAS program rather than mailing. On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Clark, Hugh <hclark@ursinus.edu> wrote: > Michael: We all owe you a massive debt for pulling this together—even > if it does involve some cribbing & boilerplate! I do have a few points of > concern on specifics (I haven’t gone through the whole doc in detail, so I > may have more, but time limits what I can read):**** > > ** ** > > Article 3, Section 7:7, Duties of Secretary-Treasurer**** > > Current text places duty for collecting dues on Sec-Treas’er. **** > > As dues and subscription to JSYS are one and the same, and as > Berkeley-IEAS collects them, would it be appropriate to grant the BofD the > power to designate and alternative?**** > > ** ** > > Art. 4, Section 5: Compensation to the BofD**** > > This ought to acknowledge the fiscal limits of SSYS. If SSYS were > obligated to provide reimbursement to the BofD for travel to AAS, etc., for > formal meetings we would be bankrupt in no time.**** > > ** ** > > Art. 4, Section 7: Place of Meetings**** > > Mightn’t a required annual meeting of the BofD be in conjunction with AAS, > separately and in advance of the SSYS meeting, rather than “at the > principle office of the Society”?**** > > ** ** > > Just some initial thoughts.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > HRC**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Hugh R. Clark, Ph.D.**** > > Professor of History & East Asian Studies**** > > Ursinus College**** > > ** ** > > 610-409-3299**** > > hclark@ursinus.edu**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org [mailto: > listserv-bounces@mail.songyuan.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael A. Fuller > *Sent:* Thursday, March 22, 2012 6:35 PM > *To:* listserv@songyuan.org > *Subject:* [Song-Yuan Listserv] The Draft By-laws**** > > ** ** > > Dear All,**** > > ** ** > > As promised, the draft by-laws for the new corporation are now on the > Song-Yuan website. Please let me know your thoughts and suggestions.**** > > ** ** > > Yours truly,**** > > ** ** > > Michael**** > > _______________________________________________ > Listserv mailing list > Listserv@mail.songyuan.org > http://mail.songyuan.org/mailman/listinfo/listserv_mail.songyuan.org > >