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WWVB receiver schematic inquiry

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Maxaner Radcliff
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 6:57 AM

Hello,
I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the
antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found
a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that
worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be
grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am
aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it
myself.
Thanks,
-Max

Hello, I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it myself. Thanks, -Max
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Bryan _
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 10:30 PM

Universal-Solder in Canada sells the kits, but they also sell some of the discrete components if you wanted to roll your own.

Atomic Clock Receiver 60kHz, 77.5kHz For North America, Europe, Japan (universal-solder.ca)https://universal-solder.ca/product-category/atomic-clock-radio-receiver/

-=Bryan=-


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Subject: [time-nuts] WWVB receiver schematic inquiry

Hello,
I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the
antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found
a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that
worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be
grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am
aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it
myself.
Thanks,
-Max


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Universal-Solder in Canada sells the kits, but they also sell some of the discrete components if you wanted to roll your own. Atomic Clock Receiver 60kHz, 77.5kHz For North America, Europe, Japan (universal-solder.ca)<https://universal-solder.ca/product-category/atomic-clock-radio-receiver/> -=Bryan=- ________________________________ From: Maxaner Radcliff via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Sent: February 26, 2023 10:57 PM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> Cc: Maxaner Radcliff <maxanerradcliff@gmail.com> Subject: [time-nuts] WWVB receiver schematic inquiry Hello, I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it myself. Thanks, -Max _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
BC
Bob Camp
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 10:36 PM

Hi

How portable does this device need to be? If this is a fixed location design,
the antenna can be something pretty “major”. If it needs to be portable, the
small version of the ferrite loopstick is indeed the goto answer.

Bob

On Feb 27, 2023, at 1:57 AM, Maxaner Radcliff via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:

Hello,
I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the
antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found
a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that
worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be
grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am
aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it
myself.
Thanks,
-Max


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Hi How portable does this device need to be? If this is a fixed location design, the antenna can be something pretty “major”. If it needs to be portable, the small version of the ferrite loopstick is indeed the goto answer. Bob > On Feb 27, 2023, at 1:57 AM, Maxaner Radcliff via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Hello, > I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the > antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found > a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that > worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be > grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am > aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it > myself. > Thanks, > -Max > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com
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Peter Putnam
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 10:47 PM

Max,

This Canadian source

https://universal-solder.ca/

has WWVB antennas, a receiver chip and an Arduino  demo board with
source code.

The demo clock locks in minutes during the day on the West Coast.

Regards,
Peter

On 2/26/2023 10:57 PM, Maxaner Radcliff via time-nuts wrote:

Hello,
I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the
antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found
a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that
worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be
grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am
aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it
myself.
Thanks,
-Max


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Max, This Canadian source https://universal-solder.ca/ has WWVB antennas, a receiver chip and an Arduino  demo board with source code. The demo clock locks in minutes during the day on the West Coast. Regards, Peter On 2/26/2023 10:57 PM, Maxaner Radcliff via time-nuts wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the > antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found > a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that > worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be > grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am > aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it > myself. > Thanks, > -Max > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >
BC
Brooke Clarke
Mon, Feb 27, 2023 11:31 PM

Hi Max:

I think a key part of the design is to make all the circuitry as high in impedance as you can.  This idea is based on
the design of the loopstick for the C-Max. See:
https://prc68.com/I/Loop.shtml#cmxcl

Maybe you could send me schematics?

--
Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke, N6GCE
https://www.PRC68.com
axioms:

  1. The extent to which you can fix or improve something will be limited by how well you understand how it works.
  2. Everybody, with no exceptions, holds false beliefs.

-------- Original Message --------

Hello,
I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the
antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found
a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that
worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be
grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am
aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it
myself.
Thanks,
-Max


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Hi Max: I think a key part of the design is to make all the circuitry as high in impedance as you can.  This idea is based on the design of the loopstick for the C-Max. See: https://prc68.com/I/Loop.shtml#cmxcl Maybe you could send me schematics? -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke, N6GCE https://www.PRC68.com axioms: 1. The extent to which you can fix or improve something will be limited by how well you understand how it works. 2. Everybody, with no exceptions, holds false beliefs. -------- Original Message -------- > Hello, > I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the > antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found > a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that > worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be > grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am > aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it > myself. > Thanks, > -Max > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >
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paul swed
Tue, Feb 28, 2023 1:36 AM

Max
It depends on what your interest is. If you want to decode the AM signal
then you can simply use a TRF receiver. The challenge these days are
getting inductors for the tank circuits. As a result newer designs use op
amp bandpass filters. Technology being what it is there are single chip
units for very little cost. Add the loop and a 60 KHz crystal and it works
at very low power consumption. The C-MAX chip is an example if they can be
obtained these days.
However if you want to decode the PSK signal thats a much more complicated
design. Search for KD2BD and that should get the QEX article. I have built
it and it does indeed work.
Depending on your location and distance from wwvb will establish how well
the receiver will work over 24 hours.
Near Boston I use a 10' X 10' square loop with several hundred feet of wire
and preamp.
Good luck.
Paul
WB8TSL

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:24 PM Maxaner Radcliff via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:

Hello,
I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the
antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found
a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that
worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be
grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am
aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it
myself.
Thanks,
-Max


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Max It depends on what your interest is. If you want to decode the AM signal then you can simply use a TRF receiver. The challenge these days are getting inductors for the tank circuits. As a result newer designs use op amp bandpass filters. Technology being what it is there are single chip units for very little cost. Add the loop and a 60 KHz crystal and it works at very low power consumption. The C-MAX chip is an example if they can be obtained these days. However if you want to decode the PSK signal thats a much more complicated design. Search for KD2BD and that should get the QEX article. I have built it and it does indeed work. Depending on your location and distance from wwvb will establish how well the receiver will work over 24 hours. Near Boston I use a 10' X 10' square loop with several hundred feet of wire and preamp. Good luck. Paul WB8TSL On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 5:24 PM Maxaner Radcliff via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hello, > I am trying to make a WWVB radio clock and I'm currently working on the > antenna/receiver portion. I have done a fair bit of research and have found > a few schematics but was wondering if anyone here has any designs that > worked for them. I plan on using a ferrite loopstick antenna and would be > grateful if someone could redirect me to some good resources/designs. I am > aware there are prebuilt receivers sold, but I would like to build it > myself. > Thanks, > -Max > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >