ADDING AMP METERS
Well this s**ks.
Below is the response I recieved from Belvoir
CHeers
Mike Eedy
North Bay on
From: "Tanja Bethea" customer_service@belvoir.com
To: "michael eedy" meedy@sympatico.ca
Subject: RE: Powerboat Reports Discontinued?
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:31:55 -0400
Yes.
Unfortunately, May 2007 will be the last published issue for Powerboat
Reports; it's been taken over by Boating Magazine. A postcard with
detailed information about the change has been mailed and should be
arriving any day now. It outlines exactly what will happen with your
subscription, as well as contact information should you have any further
concerns.
Thank you for your support through the years.
Tanja Bethea
Customer Service
Powerboat Reports
Boating Magazine contacts:
Customer Service - 800-289-0399
Email: boating@neodata.com
Here is a copy of what was sent to me by Powerboat Reports
Rob
The May issue was the last issue of Powerboat Report, which, after 20
years, has ended its circulation. You will soon be receiving a letter from
Boating magazine regarding subscription fulfillment. Current Powerboat
Reports subscribers will receive at least two issues of Boating magazine
for every issue of Powerboat Reports they are due. Boating will also be
providing a toll-free telephone number for those who have questions.
It was my pleasure to serve you as the editor of Powerboat Reports for the
past eight years. I truly believed in its mission of objective testing of
boats and gear. In addition, I enjoyed acting as an advocate for the
consumer during my tenure, which included 97 issues of Powerboat Reports.
I count myself as a lucky man because my job consisted of two of my great
passions-boating and journalism. It was because of you that I was able to
spend so much time on the water, while improving myself as an editor.
Chris Landry
At 03:01 PM 4/26/2007 +0000, michael eedy wrote:
I think we'll have to wait and see what the fallout will be.
So they sold Powerboat reports to another company, but isn't your
subscription with Belvoir publications? I'm sure that they promised Boating
"X" number of captive subscriptions, but that should not obligate
subscribers! Hopefully, an attorney will comment, but wouldn't it be great
if all subscribers demanded their money back?
The new owner is: [they are HUGE]
Hachette Filipacchi New Media is a division of Hachette Filipacchi
magazines, largest publisher of special interest publications. Write to us
at HFNM, 1633 Broadway, 40th Floor, New York, NY 10019.
Ron Rogers
Why not substitute Practical Sailor or are they out of business as well?
Hre's my guess. Since PS and PBR are joined at the hip, PS already has
access to PBR's subscription list. BM (Boating Mag) doesn't. Subscription
lists are very valuable. BM probably paid a lot for PBR's list in hopes of
retaining some percentage of the subscribers. You understand, once you start
receiving a mag, it's really hard to unsubscribe. It took me an extra year
to stop it with Passagemaker.
Eventually PS will make offers to those on PBR's list that aren't on PS's.
And it won't be free, and it won't cover for free remaining issues that PBR
subscribers are "owed".
-- Jim Ague
Ron and others:
Anna Delgado at Belvior (ADelgado@belvoir.com) would not switch me
but told me to call Boating 800-289-0399, or email them,
(boating@neodata.com) asking for a refund.
I think this s**Ks because as you said, my fiduciary relationship is
with Belvior, they sold, but should have asked me if I wanted to switch.
I have seen Boating. It will Never Ever Come Close to the
professionalism and accuracy I saw in PB Reports.....
Lee
On 27 Apr 2007, at 00:10, Ron Rogers wrote:
So they sold Powerboat reports to another company, but isn't your
subscription with Belvoir publications? I'm sure that they promised
Boating "X" number of captive subscriptions, but that should not
obligate subscribers! Hopefully, an attorney will comment, but
wouldn't it be great if all subscribers demanded their money back?
The new owner is: [they are HUGE]
Hachette Filipacchi New Media is a division of Hachette Filipacchi
magazines, largest publisher of special interest publications. Write
to us at HFNM, 1633 Broadway, 40th Floor, New York, NY 10019.
Ron Rogers
Every report I've ever seen is very positive. I was going to use it at my
last haulout, but they were sold out nation-wide of the kit size I needed.
I'm using it next time for sure.
By the way, if I were still subscribing to PR, I would switch to Practical
Sailor... there was a lot of duplication between the two. I've just pretty
much finished outfitting the boat, so don't really need it any longer. Sure
was nice for the few years I received it. Wonder why they sold it? Not
making enough money I suppose.
Keith
If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what
it costs when it's free. --P.J. O'Rourke
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alec McLocklin (amclockl)" amclockl@cisco.com
That stinks! I was waiting on the report they were doing for the Prop
Speed product. Damn, now we will never know if the stuff works :')
Evening all,
I can understand that perhaps the business model for PBR wasn't working out.
What I don't understand is why "Boating" would even consider buying PBR?
I'm thinking most if not all of us have had subscriptions to "Boating" or
it's ilk. We subscribed to PBR and paid the price because we didn't like the
every month "this is the best yet whatever" driven by their advertising
based business model.
We might have disagreed with some of PBR methodology, but at least they
called garbage garbage if they thought it was.
And now I'd be cautious of subscribing to Practical Sailor only to find out
it's been sold to "Sailing"
If I wanted those magazines, I'd already be subscribed.
Personally I think this is a lose/lose scenario
CHeers
Mike Eedy
North Bay ON
-----Original Message-----
From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com
[mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Ague
Sent: April 26, 2007 20:15 PM
To: Ron Rogers; David Hart; Trawlers & Trawlering List
Subject: Re: T&T: Powerboat Reports going under
Why not substitute Practical Sailor or are they out of business as well?
Hre's my guess. Since PS and PBR are joined at the hip, PS already has
access to PBR's subscription list. BM (Boating Mag) doesn't. Subscription
lists are very valuable. BM probably paid a lot for PBR's list in hopes of
retaining some percentage of the subscribers. You understand, once you start
receiving a mag, it's really hard to unsubscribe. It took me an extra year
to stop it with Passagemaker.
Eventually PS will make offers to those on PBR's list that aren't on PS's.
And it won't be free, and it won't cover for free remaining issues that PBR
subscribers are "owed".
-- Jim Ague
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