Thanks, Milt, for sharing the info on the Horta agent and also on the fuel people. Since we can take up to 1500 gallons we will see what they can do next time we head offshore. Although otherwise brilliant with their marketing, it is unfortunate that PAE has elected to make the Nordhavn Owner's site unavailable to others as undoubtedly there is a lot of good info there which is not peculiar to Nordhavn boats. Whereas we understand that non-owners should not be allowed to post, it's a shame that only owners can read the posts on that site, a part of an otherwise open boating community. Of course they are not the only ones to do this, but as they portray themselves quite loftily, you'd think that would extend to "full disclosure," so to say. To their credit, I have found the people at PAE to be helpful and forthcoming with information on, for instance, elements of their paravane design. Regards, John "Seahorse" > Nordhavn 50 owner Phil Eslinger had a post on the Nordhavn owners' site noting that using shipping agents in foreign countries can be a huge aid for passagemaking trawler owners when cruising overseas. He proposed starting a list on the site all of the agents Nordhavn owners have used. If someone will pass this to the site, let me provide the following contact information for Marco Quadros who has been a wonderful resource for Nordhavn owners visiting Horta: Marco Quadros (senior agent) Bensaude Agentes de Navegaceo Lda. Rua Vasco da Gama, 42 Horta, Faial, Azores (Portugal) Tel. 351-292-293-031 or 351-292-293-033 Mobile: 351-918-792-536 marco.quadros@bensaude.pt As something worth adding to the list, I should also mention that fuel arrangements for both the Nordhavn Atlantic Rally 2004 and Med Bound 2007 have been made through Global Yacht Fuel in Fort Lauderdale. Essentially, this involves establishing an account with Global, then notifying them when and where one wants to bunker. Using their worldwide contacts, Global will negotiate the best price, arrange the fueling (usually through an agent such as Marco above), and bill the owner, meaning you can pay for your fuel through your U.S. bank account rather than in local currency. The fuel we've gotten using Global on this trip (and on the NAR) has been among the cleanest we've ever burned and arrangements have been virtually hassle-free. Global makes its money by taking a small percentage of what we pay for fuel, yet the fuel prices are normally less than we'd pay if we simply drove up and asked for a full-up so they're saving us money. More important, perhaps, my comfort level is high with my sense that our chances of getting good, clean fuel are greater using Global. However, keep in mind that they are not interested in talking to you about less than, say, 1,000 gallons at a time. Their principal business focuses on bunkering megayachts, so 1,000 gallons is small stuff to them. Contact information: Richard Manto, Gail Vanstone, Marianne VanCline Global Yacht Fuel 412 SE 17th St. Fort Lauderdale, FL 33316 Tel. 954-462-6050 marianne@globalyachtfuel.com ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.