Hi

It is interesting as you go through the various student and home versions, just how
hard it is to figure out what you are (and are not) buying in each case. One example
would be the inclusion (or not) of GPIB capability. One would assume it’s in there and
fully functional. At lest for me it’s a “must have” item on the check list.

If anybody comes across a deep dive on what is / is not in each package, I’d
certainly like to see it.

Bob

Interesting in your take on it if you check it out.  Please report back
your findings.

Brent

On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Eric Garner garnere@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Bob:

That's exactly the question I had yesterday.  I was a certified LabView programmer and yesterday was thinking about
having a local computer store making me a WIN 3.1 computer so I could run my old LV code and write some new code.  I may
still do that, but for now I have the $50 LV Home Bundle on order.  Yes IEEE-488 is supported. For details and links
see: http://www.prc68.com/I/LabVIEW.html

PS the student bundle is about $30.
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Bob kb8tq wrote:

They provide an evaluation version that lasts for 45 days, and if you like
it you can buy the 'LabView Home Bundle' for $49.

Apparently the home version is Windows-only, which I sadly didn't realise
till after a 1.4GB download. I can't complain too much, though, given the
price and the feature set of LabView. I might see if I can commandeer
another laptop just to use with it.

On 21 June 2015 at 01:26, brent evers brent.evers@gmail.com wrote:

On 20 June 2015 at 04:18, Bob kb8tq kb8tq@n1k.org wrote:

Be aware, a lot of older kit is not supported in Labview with the
instrument drivers. I was thinking of buying a copy, and had a labview rep
come around here. I'd sent him in advance of equipment I had that I was
interested in collecting data from. He had nothing that could talk to my HP
70000 series spectrum analyzer. He had a driver written for an 8753 VNA
which was expected to work on an 8720D, but had never been tested. Needless
to say, it could not talk to my 8720D.

Just about anything GPIB in my lab, with the exception of the Agilent power
supplies, they had no instrument drivers for, as it was all too old.

A quick check on time-interval counters, I found there's nothing for the HP
5370B, although there is the Stanford Research SR620.  (At the the the NI
guy came, I never had the SR620).

So if its a hobby, chances are you have older equipment, and support is
probably lacking. Of course you can write your own drivers, but it takes
away a lot of the convenience of Labview.

Somewhat related, there is a GPIB plugin for Octave (open-source MATLAB
clone). I have never used it myself, but might be another cheap (free) way
to get test equipment in a GUI environment.

Dave

Here's the National Instruments web page about the "Maker" (I also hate
that term) version. http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/213095

It is the same as the $2999 Full version
http://sine.ni.com/nips/cds/view/p/lang/en/nid/212666 with the
addition of the $2119 Control and Simulation Module and the $520
MathScript RT module.

Other than the licensing terms, the only real difference is that it puts
a watermark on the front panel and block diagram of every VI.

Every version of LabVIEW supports GPIB, you just have to download the
driver disk.

Even though I've got the Full Developer suite, I'll probably buy this
version just to play with Control and Simulation Module.

It's not really clear from the labviewmakerhub.com site or the ni.com
site that you download LabVIEW from either of those two sites but pay
for a license key at
https://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Detail.cfm?NavPath=2,1301,1450&Prod=LABVIEW-HE

Brent Gordon
Certified LabVIEW Developer

On 6/19/2015 9:18 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:

I wish the MathWorks would resume that practice. Back in the late 90s
they would sell one licenses for MatLab and SimuLink for an affordable
price if one singed an agreement that restricted one to personal
(specifically, non-commercial) use. My copy from back then is so old
that it won't run on Windows 7.

DaveD

On 6/19/2015 9:18 PM, Bob kb8tq wrote:

Well this looks interesting. You can download what appears to be the same
bundle for a free 45 day trial. Doing that at the moment.
Then there is the NI-Visa download and it has gpib.
Not sure what much of this means in reality. What drivers do they have to
get to the old clasical fat GPIB used on a hp5370 as an example.
I have messed with labview a few times and always seem to get tangled in
old operating systems and ISA cards and such. I do have the ethernet GPIB
controllers they had made but they stopped supporting those 10 years ago.

XXXX Note. The FAQ suggests running the 32 bit version even on a 64 bit
machine as many drivers are only 32 bits XXXX

Regards
Paul.
WB8TSL

On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Brooke Clarke brooke@pacific.net wrote:

Hi Dave:

When I was working with LV you could run the program on a Mac, Windows or Unix without any changes.
It's my understanding that's still true.

Note the instruments that accept SCPI commands are pretty much interchangeable.  It's the "R2D2" commands that are model
number specific.

The software is coming via Fedex ground from Washington state so should be here in a few days, more then.

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