Re: [pjsip] OSX QTkit has ben deprecated

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Eeri Kask
Wed, May 28, 2014 7:04 AM

On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:48:49 +0200, Sa?l Ibarra Corretg? wrote:

On May 26, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Eeri Kask wrote:

As probably more OSX versions support QTKit as there is support for
AVFoundation (esp. older hardware), please do not change anything at the
expense of QTKit in PJSIP, it works very well.  :-)

It would probably need to be another backend.

Yes!

Now, I'm interested about you impression that it works "very well".  Have you tried multiple USB cameras? After connecting / disconnecting them several times QTKit goes nuts and when querying the camera for its supported formats it returns weird stuff, this creates an interesting situation, where PJSIP detected a video device, which as 0 working formats.

It is essential to differentiate QTKit as a media subsystem and PJSIP
dealing with this subsystem.  On many OSX machines QTKit is the only
media subsystem, so replacing PJSIP's support for QTKit with something
else would mean one day PJSIP not supporting these systems at all.

To your question, it's empirical finding: "very well" means PJSIP
appears working better with QTKit as many other voip-related programs
do, including "competing" SIP technologies (for the sake of record,
today PJSIP/PJSUA is the only voip (SIP based or not) technology from a
handful of others available to me personally, which has proven reliable
enough e.g. on Apple's ppc-based systems, to be used in a "production
environment"; not counting iChat).

Though I had to create a tweak for PJSIP which is attached, in order to
support cameras besides iSight:  take a look at hunk 3, this would give
some insight, if the camera is supported by QTKit at all, or simply not
recognised by PJSIP, which then, can be corrected.

(QTKit is by far not perfect, e.g. even up to the end of QTKit's support
Apple hasn't managed (didn't care) to make it to run more than one
firewire cameras in parallel; unknown is IIDC format-7 support, etc.)

Eeri Kask
On Tue, 27 May 2014 12:48:49 +0200, Sa?l Ibarra Corretg? wrote: > On May 26, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Eeri Kask wrote: >> As probably more OSX versions support QTKit as there is support for >> AVFoundation (esp. older hardware), please do not change anything at the >> expense of QTKit in PJSIP, it works very well. :-) >> > > It would probably need to be another backend. Yes! > Now, I'm interested about you impression that it works "very well". Have you tried multiple USB cameras? After connecting / disconnecting them several times QTKit goes nuts and when querying the camera for its supported formats it returns weird stuff, this creates an interesting situation, where PJSIP detected a video device, which as 0 working formats. It is essential to differentiate QTKit as a media subsystem and PJSIP dealing with this subsystem. On many OSX machines QTKit is the only media subsystem, so replacing PJSIP's support for QTKit with something else would mean one day PJSIP not supporting these systems at all. To your question, it's empirical finding: "very well" means PJSIP appears working better with QTKit as many other voip-related programs do, including "competing" SIP technologies (for the sake of record, today PJSIP/PJSUA is the only voip (SIP based or not) technology from a handful of others available to me personally, which has proven reliable enough e.g. on Apple's ppc-based systems, to be used in a "production environment"; not counting iChat). Though I had to create a tweak for PJSIP which is attached, in order to support cameras besides iSight: take a look at hunk 3, this would give some insight, if the camera is supported by QTKit at all, or simply not recognised by PJSIP, which then, can be corrected. (QTKit is by far not perfect, e.g. even up to the end of QTKit's support Apple hasn't managed (didn't care) to make it to run more than one firewire cameras in parallel; unknown is IIDC format-7 support, etc.) Eeri Kask