1. chart lists (Truelove39@aol.com)
2. Territorial waters and innocent passage (Scott E. Bulger)
3. Admirality Law links (Scott E. Bulger)
4. Re: Territorial waters and innocent passage (Dave Cooper)

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Re: Territorial waters and innocent passage (Dave Cooper) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:57:38 EST > From: Truelove39@aol.com > Subject: [PUP] chart lists > To: scottebulger@gmail.com > Cc: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com > Message-ID: <bbe.1dfe20c0.349fb542@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Scott: > > Greetings from rainy Trinidad! > > To Dave's and Bob's excellent posts, I might add: > > Sailing Directions and Coast Pilots are usually more up-to-date than most > charts and I would certainly have them aboard, as well as a Reeds Caribbean > Almanac. > > I would look into NIMA (DMA) charts, too. > > I don't recall what your plans are exactly, but if you venture east of a > line from the west end of PR to the Columbia/Venezuela border, get the > Imray-Iolaire charts which have the benefit of Don Street's years of experience on > them. > > If you haven't already done so, I suggest you join the SSCA. There are > hundreds of members cruising and their reports are up-to-date and are published > in the Bulletin; you can ask specific questions on the web site boards; they > have cruising stations in most foreign countries and can provide local info > via email before you get there. > > Are you set up to receive Inmarsat-C SafeNet warnings and other info? We > have a TT-3022D Capsat Fisheries unit on Seahorse that automatically receives, > worldwide (you select the area), distress messages, navigational warnings > (Research vessels towing long arrays, pirate activity, recent wrecks, navaids > extinguished, missing, etc.) as well as NAVTEX. It also tracks your boat and > has a feature to write and send a customized distress message. These services > are free - all you need is the unit. See this page for more info on SafeNet: > _http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/snet.htm_ > (http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/marcomms/gmdss/snet.htm) > > And when you get to the Caribbean, remember Don Street's famous words: "If > you can see an island in the Bahamas, you're too close!" > > No connection. > > Happy cruising and Happy Holidays! > > Regards, > > John & Penny > aboard "Truelove" in Trinidad > > > > Dave provides sage advice, all of which I will follow to a T. > > I visited a boat here in LP and looked at charts that Maptech had provided > in the last year or two and as Dave has suggested they are the same. So > I've ordered a set of charts for the E side of CA and will stay with what I > have for the W. > > Regarding all of Daves advice, I assure you, even though Ive invested in a > fair amount of technology to aid my navigation, I take everything he says as > golden. I don't want these charts so I can set my autopilot on a course and > go to sleep. I want them so I have as much information at my disposal as I > could possibly use. I also have the paper charts, which I even made sure > were stacked in order of ports passed along the way. > > > > > > > > **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:12:56 -0800 > From: "Scott E. Bulger" <scottebulger@gmail.com> > Subject: [PUP] Territorial waters and innocent passage > To: "'Passagemaking Under Power List'" > <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> > Message-ID: <000b01c84576$4e889310$eb99b930$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Researching our trip North from the Panama Canal I came across a restriction > in my insurance. The countries of Columbia (except offshore islands), > Nicaragua and Cuba are restricted from coverage. I can neither sail through > or to them or my policy is in breech (until 24hours after leaving). I found > the internationally recognized territorial limit is 12 miles. I also found > language in a reference to Admiralty Law that exempted the enforcement of > restrictions against territorial limits for "Innocent Passage" > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocent_passage > > > > I may not quite have phrased the above correctly, but the net of this (to my > understanding) is I can transit the international waters of a country as > long as I don't impeded the countries peace, security or good order. I also > believe I can anchor if necessary to maintain safety and security of the > vessel. > > > > I don't think this would allow me to go to Cuba, but it would allow me to > worry less about standing off the country as we go by on the way to Key > West. I still need to verify this with Al Golden, but I thought the > research and especially the wiki pages on innocent passage and admiralty law > might be of interest to others. > > > > An idea I had for a great book (and encourage Capt. Mike Maurice to write) > is a treatment of what it means to be the Captain of a private yacht > involved in international travel. I asked Mike if I could marry someone on > my boat and he pondered the question for some time. I wonder how many other > "technicalities" there are out there that are not obvious to a guy like me > that's too busy worrying about keeping his boat running to be fully informed > of the law (law evolved over centuries of boats plying the oceans of the > world). I do think there is a book in there somewhere! > > > > Best wishes to all of you for a joyous holiday (in my case Christmas) and a > healthy and safe New Year! > > > > Scott and Marian Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA > > Currently in Puerto Vallarta (not La Paz!) Mexico > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 07:28:17 -0800 > From: "Scott E. Bulger" <scottebulger@gmail.com> > Subject: [PUP] Admirality Law links > To: "'Passagemaking Under Power List'" > <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> > Message-ID: <001001c84578$73556ef0$5a004cd0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Wow! > > > > http://www.admiraltylawguide.com/ > > > > FYI > > > > Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 15:09:33 -0400 > From: "Dave Cooper" <swansong@gmn-usa.com> > Subject: Re: [PUP] Territorial waters and innocent passage > To: "'Passagemaking Under Power List'" > <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> > Message-ID: <000901c84597$5b865e50$3401a8c0@Dell> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > <Scott wrote in part: The countries of Columbia (except offshore islands), > Nicaragua and Cuba are restricted from coverage.> > > The insurance companies are in general using outdated info to cover their > exposure, IMHO. Columbia for at least the past year hasn't had any instance > of armed aggression against yachts or the "pirating" of them. Wish we could > say that of the rest of the Caribbean. > > Passing thru territorial waters may or may not be considered OK by a > particular country. It is up to them to define what they consider "innocent > passage". Those run by more authoritarian types can be a problem. Quite > often a new election, a new Port Commandant(Captain in some areas) or muscle > flexing can lead to easier or tighter restrictions. > > As John said earlier the SSB cruising nets, the SCCA books and in some cases > the VHF nets can offer the most up to date information re a specific place > or action. OTOH, often this information needs to be carefully filtered by > the listener. > > I would ask Al to specifically define what your insurance says/means for any > passage that you feel might have a grey area re your coverage. > > This is but one more of the reasons we choose self insurance. Our > destinations are not limited by some underwriter sitting at a map of the > world wondering where he can reduce or eliminate coverage without cutting > into the revenue stream of writing policies. > > We have been to both Cuba and Columbia and will be back cruising in Columbia > next fall/winter if all goes well. Perhaps Cuba too after Jan 09 depending > on the US election results. > > We do have liability insurance and thru Al. > > As always YMMV...... > > > Dave & Nancy > Swan Song > Roughwater 58 > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List > > End of Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 37, Issue 16 > *********************************************************