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David Carr

Thu, Mar 20, 2008 1:33 PM

I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard
modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but I
don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at.

Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 KHz
output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That would be a
huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the chip labeled
11577-11.

Thanks for your time,
David Carr

I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but I don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at. Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 KHz output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That would be a huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the chip labeled 11577-11. Thanks for your time, David Carr

S

ScopeFreak

Thu, Mar 20, 2008 4:48 PM

David,

On the site http://gpskit.nl/, in the downloads directory, you can
find a lot of info on the Rockwell Jupiter board. I know the info you
are looking for is in there somewhere.

Best regards,
Tom

On Thursday 20 March 2008 14:33, David Carr wrote:

I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard
modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but
I don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at.

Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10
KHz output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That
would be a huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the
chip labeled 11577-11.

Thanks for your time,
David Carr

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David, On the site http://gpskit.nl/, in the downloads directory, you can find a lot of info on the Rockwell Jupiter board. I know the info you are looking for is in there somewhere. Best regards, Tom On Thursday 20 March 2008 14:33, David Carr wrote: > I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard > modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but > I don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at. > > Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 > KHz output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That > would be a huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the > chip labeled 11577-11. > > Thanks for your time, > David Carr > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow > the instructions there.

DC

David Carr Junk

Thu, Mar 20, 2008 6:06 PM

Tom,

Thanks for your reply. I looked through the documents on that page but
unfortunately I don't think any quite address my question.
I think they'd have to have a schematic of the board itself to do that.

If someone would just stick a multimeter probe on the 10 KHz connection of
their module and then trace that signal back to the IC, I would
really appreciate it.

Thanks,
David Carr

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:48:07 +0100, ScopeFreak scopefreak@onsnet.nu
wrote:

David,

On the site http://gpskit.nl/, in the downloads directory, you can
find a lot of info on the Rockwell Jupiter board. I know the info you
are looking for is in there somewhere.

Best regards,
Tom

On Thursday 20 March 2008 14:33, David Carr wrote:

I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard
modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but
I don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at.

Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10
KHz output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That
would be a huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the
chip labeled 11577-11.

Thanks for your time,
David Carr

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Tom, Thanks for your reply. I looked through the documents on that page but unfortunately I don't think any quite address my question. I think they'd have to have a schematic of the board itself to do that. If someone would just stick a multimeter probe on the 10 KHz connection of their module and then trace that signal back to the IC, I would really appreciate it. Thanks, David Carr On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:48:07 +0100, ScopeFreak <scopefreak@onsnet.nu> wrote: > David, > > On the site http://gpskit.nl/, in the downloads directory, you can > find a lot of info on the Rockwell Jupiter board. I know the info you > are looking for is in there somewhere. > > Best regards, > Tom > > On Thursday 20 March 2008 14:33, David Carr wrote: >> I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard >> modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but >> I don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at. >> >> Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 >> KHz output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That >> would be a huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the >> chip labeled 11577-11. >> >> Thanks for your time, >> David Carr >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow >> the instructions there.

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Scott Newell

Thu, Mar 20, 2008 7:27 PM

At 08:33 AM 3/20/2008 , David Carr wrote:

I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard
modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but I
don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at.

Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 KHz
output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That would be a
huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the chip labeled
11577-11.

Was this the same chip used in the Delorme Earthmate receiver? If so, I
seem to recall adding the 1Hz and 10kHz output to mine. Maybe I can find
it and ID the pin for you.

--
newell N5TNL

At 08:33 AM 3/20/2008 , David Carr wrote: >I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard >modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but I >don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at. > >Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 KHz >output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That would be a >huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the chip labeled >11577-11. Was this the same chip used in the Delorme Earthmate receiver? If so, I seem to recall adding the 1Hz and 10kHz output to mine. Maybe I can find it and ID the pin for you. -- newell N5TNL

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ScopeFreak

Thu, Mar 20, 2008 7:48 PM

David,

If I hold my Jupiter in the position where the connector is on the
left and the 11577-11 is facing me then the 10kHz is on pin 20 of the
connector (top right) and this pin is connected to pin 13 counting
from the top right-hand-side of the IC.

In some ugly ascii graphics:

| Jupiter board
| o o=Pin20 --------------------------------- top
| o o | o | 1
| o o | | 2
| o o | |
| o o | 11577-11 | 13=10kHz
|

I can only hope this is readable in your mail program ;-)

Let me know if this comes out OK. If not I will do some
photoshopping :-)

Tom

David, If I hold my Jupiter in the position where the connector is on the left and the 11577-11 is facing me then the 10kHz is on pin 20 of the connector (top right) and this pin is connected to pin 13 counting from the top right-hand-side of the IC. In some ugly ascii graphics: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Jupiter board | o o=Pin20 --------------------------------- top | o o | o | 1 | o o | | 2 | o o | | | o o | 11577-11 | 13=10kHz | I can only hope this is readable in your mail program ;-) Let me know if this comes out OK. If not I will do some photoshopping :-) Tom

BG

Bruce Griffiths

Thu, Mar 20, 2008 10:46 PM

David Carr wrote:

I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard
modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but I
don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at.

Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 KHz
output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That would be a
huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the chip labeled
11577-11.

Thanks for your time,
David Carr

David

On the TU30-D165 version of the Jupiter the relevant pin appears to be
the 13th pin up from the bottom on the LHS of the large chip in the
attached drawing.

Bruce

David Carr wrote: > I have a Jupiter based receiver that is not one of the standard > modules. I'd like to see if I can get a 10KHz output from it, but I > don't know which pin of the 144 possible options to look at. > > Would someone with a Jupiter board trace the connection from the 10 KHz > output back to the pin on the chip it originates from? That would be a > huge help. I suspect that you'll find it ends up on the chip labeled > 11577-11. > > Thanks for your time, > David Carr > > David On the TU30-D165 version of the Jupiter the relevant pin appears to be the 13th pin up from the bottom on the LHS of the large chip in the attached drawing. Bruce

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ScopeFreak

Thu, Mar 20, 2008 11:22 PM

David,

I can confirm. I measured it on a TU30-D140 and its on the same pin.
Bruce's graphic is rotated 180' compared to my ascii graphic.

Tom

David

On the TU30-D165 version of the Jupiter the relevant pin appears to
be the 13th pin up from the bottom on the LHS of the large chip in
the attached drawing.

Bruce

David, I can confirm. I measured it on a TU30-D140 and its on the same pin. Bruce's graphic is rotated 180' compared to my ascii graphic. Tom > > David > > On the TU30-D165 version of the Jupiter the relevant pin appears to > be the 13th pin up from the bottom on the LHS of the large chip in > the attached drawing. > > Bruce

DC

David Carr Junk

Fri, Mar 21, 2008 2:57 AM

Tom and Bruce,

Thanks for probing out this line for me. You two are indeed correct, as I
found a nice looking 10 kHz signal on the pin you identified.
My GPS is a TravRoute CoPilot serial "hockey puck" which happens to have a
Jupiter chipset (FW 1.83 1997). I thought that this GPS (my first)
was about done, but I think its found some new life...

Thanks,
David Carr

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:22:23 +0100, ScopeFreak scopefreak@onsnet.nu
wrote:

David,

I can confirm. I measured it on a TU30-D140 and its on the same pin.
Bruce's graphic is rotated 180' compared to my ascii graphic.

Tom

David

On the TU30-D165 version of the Jupiter the relevant pin appears to
be the 13th pin up from the bottom on the LHS of the large chip in
the attached drawing.

Bruce

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Tom and Bruce, Thanks for probing out this line for me. You two are indeed correct, as I found a nice looking 10 kHz signal on the pin you identified. My GPS is a TravRoute CoPilot serial "hockey puck" which happens to have a Jupiter chipset (FW 1.83 1997). I thought that this GPS (my first) was about done, but I think its found some new life... Thanks, David Carr On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:22:23 +0100, ScopeFreak <scopefreak@onsnet.nu> wrote: > David, > > I can confirm. I measured it on a TU30-D140 and its on the same pin. > Bruce's graphic is rotated 180' compared to my ascii graphic. > > Tom > >> >> David >> >> On the TU30-D165 version of the Jupiter the relevant pin appears to >> be the 13th pin up from the bottom on the LHS of the large chip in >> the attached drawing. >> >> Bruce > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.

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