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michaelg@seadreamer.net

Sun, Apr 8, 2001 11:33 PM

After spending all summer last year cleaning and varnishing my teak I am
not looking forward to doing it again. Unfortunately it looks like I will
anyway.

I used Wood Pro from West Marine (kind of a Cetol Lite substitute) and it
didn't hold up. In a typical fit of poor timing, I had just oiled the teak
in January then I decided to varnish in May. I cleaned and sanded and
after three coats of satin and one of gloss and one PNW winter, it is
coming off.

My next plan is to clean it up, sand it some, and refinish with more Wood
Pro satin ( mostly to even up the color ) followed by a couple coats of
marine spar varnish.

Anyone have any comments on that plan? I will probably try it in some
location that doesn't show too much first.

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Michael Gibbons
http://www.seadreamer.net
40' Marine Trader
"Sea Dreamer"
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After spending all summer last year cleaning and varnishing my teak I am not looking forward to doing it again. Unfortunately it looks like I will anyway. I used Wood Pro from West Marine (kind of a Cetol Lite substitute) and it didn't hold up. In a typical fit of poor timing, I had just oiled the teak in January then I decided to varnish in May. I cleaned and sanded and after three coats of satin and one of gloss and one PNW winter, it is coming off. My next plan is to clean it up, sand it some, and refinish with more Wood Pro satin ( mostly to even up the color ) followed by a couple coats of marine spar varnish. Anyone have any comments on that plan? I will probably try it in some location that doesn't show too much first. --|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|-- Michael Gibbons http://www.seadreamer.net 40' Marine Trader "Sea Dreamer" --|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--

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scaramouche@tvo.org

Sun, Apr 8, 2001 11:46 PM

michaelg@seadreamer.net writes:

I used Wood Pro from West Marine (kind of a Cetol Lite substitute)
and it
didn't hold up. In a typical fit of poor timing, I had just oiled
the teak
in January then I decided to varnish in May. I cleaned and sanded
and
after three coats of satin and one of gloss and one PNW winter, it
is
coming off.

I would contact the Cetol people for advice what went wrong. We here
in the Great Lakes Region have similar weather as you (I used to live
in Prince Rupert and Vancouver). Many of us here in the marina use
the original Cetol or its copy-cat Armada. We follow the
manufacturers instructions and have no problems. I personally use it
on all my outside teak (grab rails, cockpit trim). I originally
painted on three coats and follow-up once a year with a light
rubdown and one additional coat. It doesn't look "varnished", it
looks "cetoled" and that suits me just fine.

George of Scaramouche

michaelg@seadreamer.net writes: >I used Wood Pro from West Marine (kind of a Cetol Lite substitute) >and it >didn't hold up. In a typical fit of poor timing, I had just oiled >the teak >in January then I decided to varnish in May. I cleaned and sanded >and >after three coats of satin and one of gloss and one PNW winter, it >is >coming off. I would contact the Cetol people for advice what went wrong. We here in the Great Lakes Region have similar weather as you (I used to live in Prince Rupert and Vancouver). Many of us here in the marina use the original Cetol or its copy-cat Armada. We follow the manufacturers instructions and have no problems. I personally use it on all my outside teak (grab rails, cockpit trim). I originally painted on three coats and follow-up once a year with a light rubdown and one additional coat. It doesn't look "varnished", it looks "cetoled" and that suits me just fine. George of Scaramouche

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mhknott@home.com

Mon, Apr 9, 2001 1:00 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael michaelg@seadreamer.net

My next plan is to clean it up, sand it some, and refinish with more Wood
Pro satin ( mostly to even up the color ) followed by a couple coats of
marine spar varnish.

Anyone have any comments on that plan? I will probably try it in some
location that doesn't show too much first.

The varnish over the Wood Pro sounds interesting. However, since the Wood
Pro failed, you might consider discarding it and going with Cetol original
satin for the next attempt. I've been using it for years with never a
problem.

Mel Knott

----- Original Message ----- From: Michael <michaelg@seadreamer.net> > > My next plan is to clean it up, sand it some, and refinish with more Wood > Pro satin ( mostly to even up the color ) followed by a couple coats of > marine spar varnish. > > Anyone have any comments on that plan? I will probably try it in some > location that doesn't show too much first. > The varnish over the Wood Pro sounds interesting. However, since the Wood Pro failed, you might consider discarding it and going with Cetol original satin for the next attempt. I've been using it for years with never a problem. Mel Knott

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yourcaptain@earthlink.net

Mon, Apr 9, 2001 1:13 AM

I have been using a product by Pettit----BAK V Spar varnish. In every
test that it has entered it is the winner for standing up in the tropical
sun by years to it's closest competitor. Including tests by Consumers
Reports and my own experience.

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My next plan is to clean it up, sand it some, and refinish with more Wood
Pro satin ( mostly to even up the color ) followed by a couple coats of
marine spar varnish.

Anyone have any comments on that plan? I will probably try it in some
location that doesn't show too much first.

--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--
Michael Gibbons
http://www.seadreamer.net
40' Marine Trader
"Sea Dreamer"
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Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

I have been using a product by Pettit----BAK V Spar varnish. In every test that it has entered it is the winner for standing up in the tropical sun by years to it's closest competitor. Including tests by Consumers Reports and my own experience. =============================================================== >My next plan is to clean it up, sand it some, and refinish with more Wood >Pro satin ( mostly to even up the color ) followed by a couple coats of >marine spar varnish. > >Anyone have any comments on that plan? I will probably try it in some >location that doesn't show too much first. > > >--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|-- > Michael Gibbons >http://www.seadreamer.net > 40' Marine Trader > "Sea Dreamer" >--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|--|-- > > Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

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