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TA
Tricia and Brian Jones
Tue, Sep 21, 2004 2:21 AM

Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels? I
understand the technology is improving all the time and we could  well use an
extra little boost. We use, on the average, at anchor, being very
conservative and power wise, about 75 AH's a day. We don't have a freezer or
anything else drawing a lot of power, (except the fridge), and we don't have a
generator. If I could get 5 amps from a solar panel for 10 hours on a sunny
day,
that would give me back 50 AH's...two panels would give me 100 AH's. Note...it
is those nice sunny days when you want to stay an extra day in the anchorage.
Any
comments or advice would be surely welcome.

Thanks,

Tricia and Brian  Jones
RiverWest, Ladner, B.C.

Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels? I understand the technology is improving all the time and we could well use an extra little boost. We use, on the average, at anchor, being very conservative and power wise, about 75 AH's a day. We don't have a freezer or anything else drawing a lot of power, (except the fridge), and we don't have a generator. If I could get 5 amps from a solar panel for 10 hours on a sunny day, that would give me back 50 AH's...two panels would give me 100 AH's. Note...it is those nice sunny days when you want to stay an extra day in the anchorage. Any comments or advice would be surely welcome. Thanks, Tricia and Brian Jones RiverWest, Ladner, B.C.
BP
Bob Peterson
Tue, Sep 21, 2004 5:24 AM

Tricia and Brian,

I'd like to piggy-back on your inquiry as I've been looking for an easy way
to keep the battery in our Zodiac charged without snaking cable all over the
aft deck to reach it.  It occurred to me that a solar panel, perhaps one
attached to the dink's canvas cover might do the trick, but solar power is
so full of urban myths and other conflicting accounts, I'd welcome some
straightforward advice.

Thanks,

Bob Peterson
47' Lien Hwa CMY
"Lopaka Nane"
San Francisco

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Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels?

Tricia and Brian, I'd like to piggy-back on your inquiry as I've been looking for an easy way to keep the battery in our Zodiac charged without snaking cable all over the aft deck to reach it. It occurred to me that a solar panel, perhaps one attached to the dink's canvas cover might do the trick, but solar power is so full of urban myths and other conflicting accounts, I'd welcome some straightforward advice. Thanks, Bob Peterson 47' Lien Hwa CMY "Lopaka Nane" San Francisco -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Tricia and Brian Jones Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:21 PM To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: T&T: Solar Power Panels Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels?
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David
Tue, Sep 21, 2004 1:06 PM

Tricia and Brian  Jones
RiverWest, Ladner, B.C.
Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels?
I
understand the technology is improving all the time and we could  well use
an
extra little boost. snip>
_
We have 4.8 KW of panels on our house. Their best day (near Philadelphia,
PA) has been 28 KW Hours. They were very expensive but I was able to get a
grant for 2/3 of the cost. We put them up 10 months ago and so far I sell
more power to the grid than we've used, not much more, but more. Its been a
cool summer so we've not used the A/C at the house very much. In August the
A/C was on for about 10 days and I had to pay $25 for electric. As you
pointed out you need the power when the sun shines.

I have not installed them on the boat yet. It is more difficult to mount the
panels and another power system seems like overkill. I have a gen set and of
course the motors or shore power. Skooch has a canvas covered hard top. If I
add a fiberglass top instead of the canvas I will fit the solar to the top.
Otherwise I cannot get enough panels to make a good dent in Skooch's 150 amp
hour a day consumption.

Skooch Hatteras LRC 42
Worton Creek MD

Tricia and Brian Jones RiverWest, Ladner, B.C. Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels? I understand the technology is improving all the time and we could well use an extra little boost. snip> _ We have 4.8 KW of panels on our house. Their best day (near Philadelphia, PA) has been 28 KW Hours. They were very expensive but I was able to get a grant for 2/3 of the cost. We put them up 10 months ago and so far I sell more power to the grid than we've used, not much more, but more. Its been a cool summer so we've not used the A/C at the house very much. In August the A/C was on for about 10 days and I had to pay $25 for electric. As you pointed out you need the power when the sun shines. I have not installed them on the boat yet. It is more difficult to mount the panels and another power system seems like overkill. I have a gen set and of course the motors or shore power. Skooch has a canvas covered hard top. If I add a fiberglass top instead of the canvas I will fit the solar to the top. Otherwise I cannot get enough panels to make a good dent in Skooch's 150 amp hour a day consumption. Skooch Hatteras LRC 42 Worton Creek MD
JB
Jim Barrentine
Tue, Sep 21, 2004 3:34 PM

At 10:21 PM 9/20/2004, Tricia and Brian Jones wrote:

Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels?

I have 4 x 110 watt Shell solar panels on my Endeavour Trawlercat.  I took
delivery of the boat (and the solar panels) this past January in St
Petersberg, FL.  We have taken the boat as far north as Myrtle Beach,
SC.  The panels have supplied all the power we need except when we want to
run the air conditioning.  We never use the battery charger.  I'm pretty
amazed at how well they perform.  We have 3 x 210 AH house batteries and 2
x 90 AH starting batteries.

Jim Barrentine
Endeavour Trawlercat 36 "Down Time"
11470 Euclid Ave., #404
Cleveland, OH  44106
216-496-2008

At 10:21 PM 9/20/2004, Tricia and Brian Jones wrote: >Has anyone had any experience or thoughts on the use of solar power panels? I have 4 x 110 watt Shell solar panels on my Endeavour Trawlercat. I took delivery of the boat (and the solar panels) this past January in St Petersberg, FL. We have taken the boat as far north as Myrtle Beach, SC. The panels have supplied all the power we need except when we want to run the air conditioning. We never use the battery charger. I'm pretty amazed at how well they perform. We have 3 x 210 AH house batteries and 2 x 90 AH starting batteries. Jim Barrentine Endeavour Trawlercat 36 "Down Time" 11470 Euclid Ave., #404 Cleveland, OH 44106 216-496-2008
MR
Mark Richter
Wed, Sep 22, 2004 2:57 AM

I've used a single 75 watt Siemens solar panel on Pooh for 7 years.  In
sunny weather, expect 20-25 AH a day (FL and Bahamas, not Maine).  That's
about 1/3 of Pooh's needs at anchor.  You can do a little better with
tiltable panels if you tend them to stay pointed at the sun, but I didn't
bother with it.  A mounting spot with no shadowing from masts, radar, etc.
is very important.  Even 3% shading on single-crystal cells will
dramatically reduce output.  The only needed maintenance is to wipe the dust
off the surface every week  or so with a damp cloth.

Mark Richter, Winnie the Pooh
homeport Ortona, FL on the Okeechobee Waterway

I've used a single 75 watt Siemens solar panel on Pooh for 7 years. In sunny weather, expect 20-25 AH a day (FL and Bahamas, not Maine). That's about 1/3 of Pooh's needs at anchor. You can do a little better with tiltable panels if you tend them to stay pointed at the sun, but I didn't bother with it. A mounting spot with no shadowing from masts, radar, etc. is very important. Even 3% shading on single-crystal cells will dramatically reduce output. The only needed maintenance is to wipe the dust off the surface every week or so with a damp cloth. Mark Richter, Winnie the Pooh homeport Ortona, FL on the Okeechobee Waterway
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Keith
Wed, Sep 22, 2004 1:15 PM

There are some neat little flexible solar panels that should do what you're
wanting. I've seen them at West, etc. They are built on flexible silicone
backing and you can roll them up if needed. Come with battery clips, so just
sit it out and hook it up.

Keith
__
"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in
the country,"
--Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, DC.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Peterson" bob@peterson.org

I'd like to piggy-back on your inquiry as I've been looking for an easy
way
to keep the battery in our Zodiac charged without snaking cable all over
the
aft deck to reach it.

There are some neat little flexible solar panels that should do what you're wanting. I've seen them at West, etc. They are built on flexible silicone backing and you can roll them up if needed. Come with battery clips, so just sit it out and hook it up. Keith __ "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country," --Mayor Marion Barry, Washington, DC. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Peterson" <bob@peterson.org> > > I'd like to piggy-back on your inquiry as I've been looking for an easy > way > to keep the battery in our Zodiac charged without snaking cable all over > the > aft deck to reach it.
MR
Mark Richter
Sat, Sep 25, 2004 12:24 PM

For keeping the battery in the dinghy up, you might look to Harbor Freight
Tools.  They sell a small (5 watt?) solar panel in a hard plastic frame for
about $10.  No regulation, but its small size will probably not overcharge a
substantial size 12v battery (auto size, not motorcycle size).  It's
intended to set in the car's windshield to keep the battery from going flat
during outdoor storage.

Mark Richter, Winnie the Pooh

For keeping the battery in the dinghy up, you might look to Harbor Freight Tools. They sell a small (5 watt?) solar panel in a hard plastic frame for about $10. No regulation, but its small size will probably not overcharge a substantial size 12v battery (auto size, not motorcycle size). It's intended to set in the car's windshield to keep the battery from going flat during outdoor storage. Mark Richter, Winnie the Pooh