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WWVB remodulator for the spectracom 8170 the schematic is to large

PS
paul swed
Sun, Jun 16, 2013 9:43 PM

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.
Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off of
a wwvb antenna multi-coupler.
Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal to
select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit.
The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey.
The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear of
delay due to this processing is unfounded.
Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell
the difference. Good enough as they say.
No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170
filters do a fine job.
Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. The
system draws 13 ma.

Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you
could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially the
remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a few
hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to an
expander board.
The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really not
sure how thats going to work out.
Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one
seems to sell them any more.
Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts.
As always no intent to kit anything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off of a wwvb antenna multi-coupler. Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal to select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit. The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey. The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear of delay due to this processing is unfounded. Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell the difference. Good enough as they say. No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170 filters do a fine job. Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. The system draws 13 ma. Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially the remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a few hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to an expander board. The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really not sure how thats going to work out. Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one seems to sell them any more. Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts. As always no intent to kit anything. Regards Paul WB8TSL
BC
Bob Camp
Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:19 PM

Hi

MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.
Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off of

6180

a wwvb antenna multi-coupler.
Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal to

8160

select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit.
The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey.
The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear of
delay due to this processing is unfounded.
Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell
the difference. Good enough as they say.
No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170
filters do a fine job.
Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. The
system draws 13 ma.

Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you
could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially the
remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a few
hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to an
expander board.
The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really not

8160

sure how thats going to work out.
Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one
seems to sell them any more.
Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts.
As always no intent to kit anything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


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Hi MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or …. Bob On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post > to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. > Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off of 6180 > a wwvb antenna multi-coupler. > Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal to 8160 > select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit. > The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey. > The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear of > delay due to this processing is unfounded. > Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell > the difference. Good enough as they say. > No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170 > filters do a fine job. > Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. The > system draws 13 ma. > > Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you > could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially the > remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a few > hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to an > expander board. > The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really not 8160 > sure how thats going to work out. > Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one > seems to sell them any more. > Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts. > As always no intent to kit anything. > Regards > Paul > WB8TSL > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
PS
paul swed
Sun, Jun 16, 2013 10:39 PM

Good catch Bob 6180.
Thanks
Paul

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.
Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off

of

6180

a wwvb antenna multi-coupler.
Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal

to

8160

select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit.
The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey.
The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear

of

delay due to this processing is unfounded.
Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell
the difference. Good enough as they say.
No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170
filters do a fine job.
Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts.

The

system draws 13 ma.

Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you
could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially

the

remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a

few

hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to

an

expander board.
The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really

not

8160

sure how thats going to work out.
Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one
seems to sell them any more.
Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts.
As always no intent to kit anything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


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Good catch Bob 6180. Thanks Paul On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > Hi > > MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or …. > > Bob > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post > > to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. > > Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off > of > > 6180 > > > a wwvb antenna multi-coupler. > > Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal > to > > 8160 > > > select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit. > > The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey. > > The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear > of > > delay due to this processing is unfounded. > > Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell > > the difference. Good enough as they say. > > No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170 > > filters do a fine job. > > Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. > The > > system draws 13 ma. > > > > Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you > > could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially > the > > remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a > few > > hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to > an > > expander board. > > The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really > not > > 8160 > > > sure how thats going to work out. > > Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one > > seems to sell them any more. > > Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts. > > As always no intent to kit anything. > > Regards > > Paul > > WB8TSL > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
BC
Bob Camp
Sun, Jun 16, 2013 11:20 PM

Hi

It's been at least 10 minutes since I've made a similar mistake on the list ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:39 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Good catch Bob 6180.
Thanks
Paul

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.
Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off

of

6180

a wwvb antenna multi-coupler.
Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal

to

8160

select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit.
The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey.
The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear

of

delay due to this processing is unfounded.
Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell
the difference. Good enough as they say.
No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170
filters do a fine job.
Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts.

The

system draws 13 ma.

Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you
could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially

the

remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a

few

hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to

an

expander board.
The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really

not

8160

sure how thats going to work out.
Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one
seems to sell them any more.
Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts.
As always no intent to kit anything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


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Hi It's been at least 10 minutes since I've made a similar mistake on the list …. Bob On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:39 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > Good catch Bob 6180. > Thanks > Paul > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or …. >> >> Bob >> >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post >>> to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. >>> Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off >> of >> >> 6180 >> >>> a wwvb antenna multi-coupler. >>> Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal >> to >> >> 8160 >> >>> select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit. >>> The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey. >>> The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear >> of >>> delay due to this processing is unfounded. >>> Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell >>> the difference. Good enough as they say. >>> No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170 >>> filters do a fine job. >>> Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. >> The >>> system draws 13 ma. >>> >>> Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you >>> could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially >> the >>> remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a >> few >>> hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to >> an >>> expander board. >>> The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really >> not >> >> 8160 >> >>> sure how thats going to work out. >>> Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one >>> seems to sell them any more. >>> Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts. >>> As always no intent to kit anything. >>> Regards >>> Paul >>> WB8TSL >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
BC
Bob Camp
Sun, Jun 16, 2013 11:35 PM

Hi

Next in on the same line … MSA or MAS?

I assume it's:

http://www.mas-oy.com/products/radio-controlled-clock-rcc/mas6180/

Which would make it a MAS 6180 or it's dual band relative the MAS6181

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:39 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Good catch Bob 6180.
Thanks
Paul

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.
Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off

of

6180

a wwvb antenna multi-coupler.
Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal

to

8160

select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit.
The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey.
The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear

of

delay due to this processing is unfounded.
Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell
the difference. Good enough as they say.
No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170
filters do a fine job.
Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts.

The

system draws 13 ma.

Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you
could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially

the

remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a

few

hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to

an

expander board.
The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really

not

8160

sure how thats going to work out.
Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one
seems to sell them any more.
Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts.
As always no intent to kit anything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


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Hi Next in on the same line … MSA or MAS? I assume it's: http://www.mas-oy.com/products/radio-controlled-clock-rcc/mas6180/ Which would make it a MAS 6180 or it's dual band relative the MAS6181 Bob On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:39 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > Good catch Bob 6180. > Thanks > Paul > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > >> Hi >> >> MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or …. >> >> Bob >> >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post >>> to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. >>> Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off >> of >> >> 6180 >> >>> a wwvb antenna multi-coupler. >>> Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal >> to >> >> 8160 >> >>> select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit. >>> The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey. >>> The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my fear >> of >>> delay due to this processing is unfounded. >>> Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't tell >>> the difference. Good enough as they say. >>> No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170 >>> filters do a fine job. >>> Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. >> The >>> system draws 13 ma. >>> >>> Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or you >>> could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially >> the >>> remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a >> few >>> hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to >> an >>> expander board. >>> The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really >> not >> >> 8160 >> >>> sure how thats going to work out. >>> Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one >>> seems to sell them any more. >>> Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts. >>> As always no intent to kit anything. >>> Regards >>> Paul >>> WB8TSL >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
PS
paul swed
Mon, Jun 17, 2013 12:22 AM

Yes it is I would have sent the pdf but thats larger than 125 KB limit for
time nuts.
Regards
Paul.

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

Next in on the same line … MSA or MAS?

I assume it's:

http://www.mas-oy.com/products/radio-controlled-clock-rcc/mas6180/

Which would make it a MAS 6180 or it's dual band relative the MAS6181

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:39 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

Good catch Bob 6180.
Thanks
Paul

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to

post

to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.
Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off

of

6180

a wwvb antenna multi-coupler.
Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal

to

8160

select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit.
The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey.
The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my

fear

of

delay due to this processing is unfounded.
Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't

tell

the difference. Good enough as they say.
No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170
filters do a fine job.
Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts.

The

system draws 13 ma.

Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or

you

could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially

the

remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a

few

hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to

an

expander board.
The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really

not

8160

sure how thats going to work out.
Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one
seems to sell them any more.
Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts.
As always no intent to kit anything.
Regards
Paul
WB8TSL


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Yes it is I would have sent the pdf but thats larger than 125 KB limit for time nuts. Regards Paul. On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > Hi > > Next in on the same line … MSA or MAS? > > I assume it's: > > http://www.mas-oy.com/products/radio-controlled-clock-rcc/mas6180/ > > Which would make it a MAS 6180 or it's dual band relative the MAS6181 > > Bob > > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 6:39 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Good catch Bob 6180. > > Thanks > > Paul > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > > > >> Hi > >> > >> MSA 6180 or MSA 8160 or …. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> On Jun 16, 2013, at 5:43 PM, paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to > post > >>> to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. > >>> Operation is simple the msa 6180 receives wwvb and in my case I tap off > >> of > >> > >> 6180 > >> > >>> a wwvb antenna multi-coupler. > >>> Output of the 8160 controls inverters that select a 60 Khz clock signal > >> to > >> > >> 8160 > >> > >>> select high amplitude or low amplitude for the bit. > >>> The 60 Khz clock uses another 60 Khz xtal from mouser or digikey. > >>> The system consistently allows the Spectracom 8170 to work. Also my > fear > >> of > >>> delay due to this processing is unfounded. > >>> Compareing the wwv audio ticks and tones to the 8170 display I can't > tell > >>> the difference. Good enough as they say. > >>> No attempt has been made to filter or shape the cmos output. The 8170 > >>> filters do a fine job. > >>> Use a low power regulator to drop the 8170s antenna voltage to 5 volts. > >> The > >>> system draws 13 ma. > >>> > >>> Other comments you could use a ferrite rod as the app note states. Or > you > >>> could feed power to the old spectracom antenna and use it. Essentially > >> the > >>> remodulator sits in the middle of the coax. This project assembled in a > >> few > >>> hours yesterday. The hardest part is soldering the pesky 16 pin soic to > >> an > >>> expander board. > >>> The 8160 chip is available in the US through a distributor. But really > >> not > >> > >> 8160 > >> > >>> sure how thats going to work out. > >>> Literally any wwvb clock chip should be able to do this job. But no one > >>> seems to sell them any more. > >>> Hopefully the schematic will get through to the Time-nuts. > >>> As always no intent to kit anything. > >>> Regards > >>> Paul > >>> WB8TSL > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >>> To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >>> and follow the instructions there. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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Majdi S. Abbas
Mon, Jun 17, 2013 12:24 AM

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.

There's a copy here for those that are interested:

https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg

Majdi
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote: > OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post > to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. There's a copy here for those that are interested: https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg Majdi
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Bob Camp
Mon, Jun 17, 2013 12:51 AM

Hi

You could get rid of the inverter and nand gate by using an XOR (74HC86) gate. You'd save at least 5 cents ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Majdi S. Abbas" msa@latt.net wrote:

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.

There's a copy here for those that are interested:

https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg

Majdi

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Hi You could get rid of the inverter and nand gate by using an XOR (74HC86) gate. You'd save at least 5 cents …. Bob On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@latt.net> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote: >> OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post >> to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. > > There's a copy here for those that are interested: > > https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg > > Majdi > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
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ken johnson
Mon, Jun 17, 2013 1:08 AM

Also now on my web site,

http://www.vk7krj.com/ham_stuff.htm

at the bottom of the page, along with some other time-nut type files.

And, once again, if anyone has any other time-nut files they would like to
see hosted on a web page, I am happy to oblige. Just email me.

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Majdi S. Abbas msa@latt.net wrote:

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post
to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.

     There's a copy here for those that are interested:

     https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg

     Majdi

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Also now on my web site, http://www.vk7krj.com/ham_stuff.htm at the bottom of the page, along with some other time-nut type files. And, once again, if anyone has any other time-nut files they would like to see hosted on a web page, I am happy to oblige. Just email me. On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Majdi S. Abbas <msa@latt.net> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote: > > OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to post > > to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. > > There's a copy here for those that are interested: > > https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg > > Majdi > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
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paul swed
Mon, Jun 17, 2013 1:08 AM

Majdi
Thanks I will take some pix tomorrow work permitting and forward. Its dead
bug style so not pretty. But it sure does work.
Regards and thanks again
Paul

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Bob Camp lists@rtty.us wrote:

Hi

You could get rid of the inverter and nand gate by using an XOR (74HC86)
gate. You'd save at least 5 cents ….

Bob

On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Majdi S. Abbas" msa@latt.net wrote:

On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote:

OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to

post

to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also.

   There's a copy here for those that are interested:

   https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg

   Majdi

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Majdi Thanks I will take some pix tomorrow work permitting and forward. Its dead bug style so not pretty. But it sure does work. Regards and thanks again Paul On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Bob Camp <lists@rtty.us> wrote: > Hi > > You could get rid of the inverter and nand gate by using an XOR (74HC86) > gate. You'd save at least 5 cents …. > > Bob > > On Jun 16, 2013, at 8:24 PM, "Majdi S. Abbas" <msa@latt.net> wrote: > > > On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 05:43:18PM -0400, paul swed wrote: > >> OK no schematic. It was 2MB. But it was a scan of my notes. Happy to > post > >> to a sight or two. Can include some pictures also. > > > > There's a copy here for those that are interested: > > > > https://latt.net/wwvb%20remodulator%20spectracom%208170.jpg > > > > Majdi > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >