13-14ft Powercat centre console Tender
Hi,
Does anyone know of a roomy little 13-14ft (around 4m) Powercat we can use
as a tender and has good freeboard so we can set it up with a centre console
for walk around fishing?
Cheers,
John Winter
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
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Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:48:50 GMT
From: "ron_zeppieri@juno.com" ron_zeppieri@juno.com
To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:12:48 -0400
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Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
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looking for one in my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend.
When I
I've never used them, but Progress Marine Services in Salt Creek (St.
Pete) is expecting (or may already have) a new lift that can handle 26'.
New 94 Ton, 26' Beam Travel Lift
Coming October 2012
http://www.progressiveboatyard.com/
-rja
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:22:06 -0700
From: "Bruce Clark (gmail)" brucerclark@gmail.com
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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We have had very good haul-out service for our Lagoon 44 (21 foot beam)
power cat at Captain's Cove in Bridgeport CT and at Bennett Brothers in
Wilmington NC, where we have wintered "Hog Wild" in 2011 and 2012. Both
marinas are very receptive to cats--no extra charges--and exceptionally
welcoming to their owners. Both have a pretty good amount of space on the
hard, too, as well as a yard qualified to do almost any work you might need
right on-site. We couldn't find a suitable haul-out facility in either South
Carolina or Georgia this past summer, so we elected to stay in Wilmington NC
for the fall/winter. We have begun to suspect that we are attracting
hurricanes, however...
Bruce and Karen Clark
M/Y Hog Wild
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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:49 PM
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Very Popular little tenders.
From: John Winter johnadventurebay@gmail.com
To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 9:48 PM
Subject: [PCW] 13-14ft Powercat centre console Tender
Hi,
Does anyone know of a roomy little 13-14ft (around 4m) Powercat we can use
as a tender and has good freeboard so we can set it up with a centre console
for walk around fishing?
Cheers,
John Winter
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
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Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com/
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:48:50 GMT
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To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com/
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Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
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looking for one in my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend.
When I
I've never used them, but Progress Marine Services in Salt Creek (St.
Pete) is expecting (or may already have) a new lift that can handle 26'.
New 94 Ton, 26' Beam Travel Lift
Coming October 2012
http://www.progressiveboatyard.com/
-rja
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:22:06 -0700
From: "Bruce Clark (gmail)" brucerclark@gmail.com
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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We have had very good haul-out service for our Lagoon 44 (21 foot beam)
power cat at Captain's Cove in Bridgeport CT and at Bennett Brothers in
Wilmington NC, where we have wintered "Hog Wild" in 2011 and 2012. Both
marinas are very receptive to cats--no extra charges--and exceptionally
welcoming to their owners. Both have a pretty good amount of space on the
hard, too, as well as a yard qualified to do almost any work you might need
right on-site. We couldn't find a suitable haul-out facility in either South
Carolina or Georgia this past summer, so we elected to stay in Wilmington NC
for the fall/winter. We have begun to suspect that we are attracting
hurricanes, however...
Bruce and Karen Clark
M/Y Hog Wild
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com/
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
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Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:48:50 GMT
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
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From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:12:48 -0400
From: "R. Jason Adams" rjasonadams@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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looking for one in my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend.
When I
I've never used them, but Progress Marine Services in Salt Creek (St.
Pete) is expecting (or may already have) a new lift that can handle 26'.
New 94 Ton, 26' Beam Travel Lift
Coming October 2012
http://www.progressiveboatyard.com/
-rja
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:22:06 -0700
From: "Bruce Clark (gmail)" brucerclark@gmail.com
To: "'Power Catamaran List'" power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Message-ID: 005d01cdb7b6$2a0a9580$7e1fc080$@com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
We have had very good haul-out service for our Lagoon 44 (21 foot beam)
power cat at Captain's Cove in Bridgeport CT and at Bennett Brothers in
Wilmington NC, where we have wintered "Hog Wild" in 2011 and 2012. Both
marinas are very receptive to cats--no extra charges--and exceptionally
welcoming to their owners. Both have a pretty good amount of space on the
hard, too, as well as a yard qualified to do almost any work you might need
right on-site. We couldn't find a suitable haul-out facility in either South
Carolina or Georgia this past summer, so we elected to stay in Wilmington NC
for the fall/winter. We have begun to suspect that we are attracting
hurricanes, however...
Bruce and Karen Clark
M/Y Hog Wild
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of ron_zeppieri@juno.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:49 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44 Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
To: Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a 44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine. Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King rnpking@hotmail.com wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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slightly smaller than you request (3.2m), but note there is the
Raeline series of small power cats made in Christchurch , often seen
on Trademe
regards
Alan
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Subject:[PCW] 13-14ft Powercat centre console Tender
Hi,
Does anyone know of a roomy little 13-14ft (around 4m) Powercat we can
use
as a tender and has good freeboard so we can set it up with a centre
console
for walk around fishing?
Cheers,
John Winter
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
From: Pegasus 44
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
give
up my cat Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere I suspect these people
talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:48:50 GMT
From: "ron_zeppieri@juno.com"
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Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people
talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:12:48 -0400
From: "R. Jason Adams"
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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looking for one in my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend.
When I
I've never used them, but Progress Marine Services in Salt Creek (St.
Pete) is expecting (or may already have) a new lift that can handle
26'.
New 94 Ton, 26' Beam Travel Lift
Coming October 2012
http://www.progressiveboatyard.com/
-rja
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:22:06 -0700
From: "Bruce Clark (gmail)"
To: "'Power Catamaran List'"
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
We have had very good haul-out service for our Lagoon 44 (21 foot
beam)
power cat at Captain's Cove in Bridgeport CT and at Bennett Brothers
in
Wilmington NC, where we have wintered "Hog Wild" in 2011 and 2012.
Both
marinas are very receptive to cats--no extra charges--and
exceptionally
welcoming to their owners. Both have a pretty good amount of space on
the
hard, too, as well as a yard qualified to do almost any work you might
need
right on-site. We couldn't find a suitable haul-out facility in either
South
Carolina or Georgia this past summer, so we elected to stay in
Wilmington NC
for the fall/winter. We have begun to suspect that we are attracting
hurricanes, however...
Bruce and Karen Clark
M/Y Hog Wild
-----Original Message-----
From: Power-Catamaran
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On Behalf Of ron_zeppieri@juno.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:49 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people
talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
experience I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Another option would be a Dux boat, similar to a zap cat. Solid floor, inflatable tubes.
http://www.duxboats.com/fishing-boats/sports-river-boat-ud-400x.html
Rry Livingston catamarans in Tarboro NC. They have a variety of small light weight cats.
Bob Vincent
-----Original Message-----
From: alanse alanse@iinet.net.au
To: john@adventurebay.co.nz 'Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 3, 2012 3:14 am
Subject: Re: [PCW] 13-14ft Powercat centre console Tender
John
slightly smaller than you request (3.2m), but note there is the
aeline series of small power cats made in Christchurch , often seen
n Trademe
regards
Alan
----- Original Message -----
From:john@adventurebay.co.nz "Power Catamaran List"
o:
c:
ent:Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:48:45 +1300
ubject:[PCW] 13-14ft Powercat centre console Tender
Hi,
oes anyone know of a roomy little 13-14ft (around 4m) Powercat we can
se
s a tender and has good freeboard so we can set it up with a centre
onsole
or walk around fishing?
heers,
ohn Winter
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- Re: New marina capability allows for hauling of multi-hulls
Pegasus 44)
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R. Jason Adams)
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ate: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
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ulti-hulls
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Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
nd
t is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
atamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
ajority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
pportunity
nly to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
eamy
ottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
ometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
ive
p my cat Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
hey are
nly reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
ears,
hat two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
hey
re doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
nderstand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
wo
oats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
achts
o the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
o
lace a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
ore
nd a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
his
ny more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
y 44
oot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
eing
cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
ime of
traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
here is
uch less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
or
ressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
ottom
ut the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
rawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
4
oot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
acts
ome suggest that I take my boat elsewhere I suspect these people
alk
ith all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
uggestion
et the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
xists
orcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
ot the
merican way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
rom
heir attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
trange and
xotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
xperience. I
hank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
ne in
y local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
ost
t. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
ave
een hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
ave
ever had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
ointing
ut that our boat screams money painting us as a
arget. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
ast trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
his
onderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
njoy
our cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
eam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
nd
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
ead
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
ngine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
lone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
mmediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
f
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
arina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
ay."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
ww.endeavourcats.com .
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rom: Pegasus 44
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ubject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
ulti-hulls
ate: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
nd
t is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
atamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
ajority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
pportunity
nly to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
eamy
ottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
ometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
ive
p my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
hey are
nly reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
ears,
hat two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
hey
re doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
nderstand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
wo
oats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
achts
o the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
o
lace a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
ore
nd a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
his
ny more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
y 44
oot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
eing
cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
ime of
traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
here is
uch less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
or
ressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
ottom
ut the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
rawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
4
oot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
acts
ome suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people
alk
ith all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
uggestion
et the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
xists
orcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
ot the
merican way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
rom
heir attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
trange and
xotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
xperience. I
hank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
ne in
y local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
ost
t. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
ave
een hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
ave
ever had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
ointing
ut that our boat screams money painting us as a
arget. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
ast trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
his
onderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
njoy
our cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
eam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
nd
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
ead
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
ngine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
lone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
mmediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
f
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
arina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
ay."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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ulti-hulls
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looking for one in my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend.
When I
I've never used them, but Progress Marine Services in Salt Creek (St.
ete) is expecting (or may already have) a new lift that can handle
6'.
New 94 Ton, 26' Beam Travel Lift
oming October 2012
ttp://www.progressiveboatyard.com/
-rja
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ate: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:22:06 -0700
rom: "Bruce Clark (gmail)"
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ulti-hulls
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We have had very good haul-out service for our Lagoon 44 (21 foot
eam)
ower cat at Captain's Cove in Bridgeport CT and at Bennett Brothers
n
ilmington NC, where we have wintered "Hog Wild" in 2011 and 2012.
oth
arinas are very receptive to cats--no extra charges--and
xceptionally
elcoming to their owners. Both have a pretty good amount of space on
he
ard, too, as well as a yard qualified to do almost any work you might
eed
ight on-site. We couldn't find a suitable haul-out facility in either
outh
arolina or Georgia this past summer, so we elected to stay in
ilmington NC
or the fall/winter. We have begun to suspect that we are attracting
urricanes, however...
Bruce and Karen Clark
/Y Hog Wild
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ulti-hulls
Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
ww.endeavourcats.com .
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rom: Pegasus 44
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ubject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
ulti-hulls
ate: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Pegasus44PC@gmail.com
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
nd
t is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
atamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
ajority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
pportunity
nly to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
eamy
ottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
ometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
ive
p my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
hey are
nly reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
ears,
hat two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
hey
re doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
nderstand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
wo
oats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
achts
o the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
o
lace a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
ore
nd a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
his
ny more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
y 44
oot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
eing
cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
ime of
traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
here is
uch less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
or
ressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
ottom
ut the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
rawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
4
oot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
acts
ome suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people
alk
ith all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
uggestion
et the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
xists
orcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
ot the
merican way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
rom
heir attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
trange and
xotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
xperience I
hank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
ne in
y local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
ost
t. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
ave
een hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
ave
ever had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
ointing
ut that our boat screams money painting us as a
arget. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
ast trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
his
onderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
njoy
our cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
eam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
nd
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
ead
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
ngine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
lone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
mmediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
f
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
arina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
ay."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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They make many sizes, including a 14 footer with high freeboard...
-----Original Message-----
From: alanse alanse@iinet.net.au
To: john@adventurebay.co.nz 'Power Catamaran List power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Sent: Sat, Nov 3, 2012 12:14 am
Subject: Re: [PCW] 13-14ft Powercat centre console Tender
John
slightly smaller than you request (3.2m), but note there is the
Raeline series of small power cats made in Christchurch , often seen
on Trademe
regards
Alan
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To:
Cc:
Sent:Thu, 1 Nov 2012 17:48:45 +1300
Subject:[PCW] 13-14ft Powercat centre console Tender
Hi,
Does anyone know of a roomy little 13-14ft (around 4m) Powercat we can
use
as a tender and has good freeboard so we can set it up with a centre
console
for walk around fishing?
Cheers,
John Winter
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
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Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
give
up my cat Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere I suspect these people
talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 19:48:50 GMT
From: "ron_zeppieri@juno.com"
To: power-catamaran@liststrawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people
talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
experience. I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:12:48 -0400
From: "R. Jason Adams"
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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looking for one in my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend.
When I
I've never used them, but Progress Marine Services in Salt Creek (St.
Pete) is expecting (or may already have) a new lift that can handle
26'.
New 94 Ton, 26' Beam Travel Lift
Coming October 2012
http://www.progressiveboatyard.com/
-rja
Message: 4
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:22:06 -0700
From: "Bruce Clark (gmail)"
To: "'Power Catamaran List'"
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
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We have had very good haul-out service for our Lagoon 44 (21 foot
beam)
power cat at Captain's Cove in Bridgeport CT and at Bennett Brothers
in
Wilmington NC, where we have wintered "Hog Wild" in 2011 and 2012.
Both
marinas are very receptive to cats--no extra charges--and
exceptionally
welcoming to their owners. Both have a pretty good amount of space on
the
hard, too, as well as a yard qualified to do almost any work you might
need
right on-site. We couldn't find a suitable haul-out facility in either
South
Carolina or Georgia this past summer, so we elected to stay in
Wilmington NC
for the fall/winter. We have begun to suspect that we are attracting
hurricanes, however...
Bruce and Karen Clark
M/Y Hog Wild
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On Behalf Of ron_zeppieri@juno.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:49 PM
To: power-catamaran@lists.trawlering.com
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Endeavour Catamaran Corp runs a yard in Tampa Bay that handles cats.
www.endeavourcats.com .
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Pegasus 44
To: Power Catamaran List
Subject: Re: [PCW] New marina capability allows for hauling of
multi-hulls
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 11:39:52 -0700
Gary & Elizabeth Haring
Manta 44 Powercat
*Apollo Beach, Florida *
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
It is always nice to get useful information about boating from boaters
and
it is even more useful when it regards the type of boat you own. As
catamaran owners we have unique requirements that do not apply to the
majority of boaters. How many times have we heard about a great
opportunity
only to find out that we cannot take advantage of it because of our
beamy
bottoms? This limits competitiveness and choice forcing cat owners to
sometimes accept less than quality customer service, still I will not
give
up my cat. Fortunately, the marine industry is changing or perhaps
they are
only reacting to what the enlightened cruising public has known for
years,
that two hulls are better than one. Still some marinas and yards feel
they
are doing cat owners a favor by providing access to their facility. I
understand that a cat fills up a slip where they may be able to dock
two
boats and that the T head was designed to accommodate larger longer
yachts
so the dock master might have some justification in their hesitation
to
place a cat for the fear of lost revenue. Some compensate by charging
more
and a few charge double. Understanding their perspective does not make
this
any more palatable. Yards are even harder to comprehend. Hulling out
my 44
foot power cat I often find additional fees added only due to my boat
being
a cat. Never mind that blocking is so simple that it takes half the
time of
a traditional mono hull power boat and with the light displacement
there is
much less bottom to deal with. Yet how many times have I paid extra
for
pressure washing, sanding, and painting. They claim there is more
bottom
but the physics does not support this. The displacement on a 44 foot
trawler weighing 74 thousand pounds must result in more bottom than a
44
foot 27 thousand pound cat yet I pay more. When confronted with these
facts
some suggest that I take my boat elsewhere. I suspect these people
talk
with all their customers this way and sometimes I follow their
suggestion
yet the majority feel empowered due to the limited competition that
exists
forcing me to keep my opinions to myself. Double standards are truly
not the
American way of doing business and these yards will ultimately suffer
from
their attitude.
My wife and I cruise extensively on Pegasus often hulling out in
strange and
exotic locations and not all have been a completely enjoyable
experience I
thank you for the name of a cooperative yard. I am still looking for
one in
my local Tampa Bay area that I could recommend. When I find one I will
post
it. Please keep the info coming especially concerning the Bahamas. We
have
been hesitant to travel there since the downturn in their economy. We
have
never had a bad experience in the Bahamas yet my wife is cautious
pointing
out that our boat screams money painting us as a
target. I miss the Bahamas more than her because I love to dive. Our
last trip was to the Jumentos where I believe in Flamingo there is
this
wonderful reef near the entrance channel that is simply pristine.
Enjoy
your cruise and we hope to share an anchorage with you some day.
Gary**
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM, P. King wrote:
Cockrell's Marine Railway in the Little Wicomico River, Heathsville,
VA (West of the Chesapeake south of the Potomac River) has removed a
finger pier allowing for the hauling of multi-hulls on the marine
railway. Our boat, Pretty Penny, a 49 ft. power cat with 23 foot
beam
was just hauled there. They repaired a soft spot in one keel, wash
and
waxed the hulls and gave her new bottom paint. They also did some
head
work that was worth every penny we gave them!
We would highly recommend the work of Andy and Miles Cockrell that
work the marina. They are a full service marina with qualified
engine
mechanics and they do allow do-it-yourself work. They also have a
travel lift that can handle some trawlers and sail boats.
This marina has a couple of bad reviews in Active Captain. We
personally know one of the reviewers. He got an estimate he thought
was too high and did not use the marina and based his review on that
alone.
The Little Wicomico River does have a little tricky entry through a
partially silted jetty. Enter to the North side, then move
immediately
to the south side and multihulls with less than 4 foot draft should
have no problem. Two passenger ferries use enter this river twice a
day, as well as many large local fishing boats. Anything close to 5
feet should enter only on a high tide. We draw 3 and a half feet.
Smith Point Sea Rescue assists boaters in the Smith Point area free
of
charge. Hail on Channel 16 if you need them. They can also offer
advice on entering the Little Wicomico.
Contact us is you need further info on the capabilities of this
marina.
We will be joining the crowd moving south shortly to spend our 6th
winter in the Bahamas, primarily the Exumas, the Jumentos, and Long
Island. Hope to see some fellow power cats there again this winter.
The number of power cats we encounter grows every year.
Penny and Bob Kingsbury (Pretty Penny 49 ft. Crosswater)
"The true worth of your travels lies not in where you come to be at
the end of your journey's end, but in who you come to be along the
way."
Follow along on the travels of "Pretty Penny" on our blog at
http://prettypennycruise.blogspot.com
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