CG Boarding
I have no problem with being stopped and questioned, even boarded but
searching a boat is going overboard. The CG can run my numbers and see that
I'm a 55 year old retiree who lives on his boat. I agree that any vessel
visiting a foreign country should be open to boarding and searching,maybe a
walkthrough with a drug dog, but a coastal cruiser retiree and his wife should
not be subjected to these obtrusive requirements.
Marc
From: joseph.pica@gmail.com
To: guiness100@msn.com; deering@ak.net;
Subject: RE: T&T: CG Boarding rant
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 08:52:58 -0400
The absence of the rule of law is chaos. Anyone want to live al'a "Mad
Max"?
The blend of criminal and administrative laws can distort the perceptions
of
those being checked. As mentioned before, boats are mobile conveyances
whether the "home" or not, e.g. r.v.s licensed and operated on the public
travel ways. These regulatory "requirements" to enjoy the "privilege" of
operating on the public travel ways have involved from the unacceptable
behavior of some(certainly not me I've never done anything wrong car or
boat) of our fellow travelers. Concomitant with regulations come the
requirement of enforcement. Without enforcement these rules are quickly
ignored and thereby do nothing to mitigate the unacceptable behavior that
motivated them in the first place. Hence boarding (road side
sobriety/license checks, etc.) for purely administrative (i.e. regulatory)
purposes evolved.
Folks, simply put "...we have met the enemy and they are us..." Pardon
the sadly butchered quote to make the point that "we the people" create the
situations that require these intrusions. So don't blame those we pay to
protect us from ourselves.
Joe
"Carolyn Ann" GH N-37
Snip:
"...I also admire the courage they have and the sacrifice the Coast Guard
makebut
firemen also have those same qualities and they don't search your house
withoutfirst smelling smoke, or being called. A person who lives aboard a
boat
deserves the same protectionsas a person who lives in a brick house. Maybe
it's time to address Congress.
Marc..."
another boarding/law enforcement thread? as if we haven't had enough in the
past... this is trolling at its best, no point to the post other than stir
the pot.
and it is such a critical issue... you'd believe our waterways are swarming
with angry young men carrying machine guns and harrassing boaters for no
reason.
In all these years including many runs up and down the east coast, the
closest i've come to a boarding was being approached by a USCG rib at
midnight here on the bay, they rode along side 20' away for a minute, asked
me where i came from and where i was heading. They wished me a nice ride
home and left.
pascal
miami, fl
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Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 5:40 PM
Subject: T&T: CG Boarding
I know that everybody will hate this but here goes.
Boaters have NO Constitutional protection against searches.
Any police officer, border patrolman, customs officer, or Coast Guard
member may board your boat and search it to their hearts content any time,
anywhere.
The Supreme Court has ruled on this more than once.
The CG Auxiliary are NOT included in this list.
Eric Thompson
S/V Procrastinator
South San Francisco
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In all these years including many runs up and down the east coast, the
closest i've come to a boarding was being approached by a USCG rib at
midnight here on the bay, they rode along side 20' away for a minute, asked
me where i came from and where i was heading. They wished me a nice ride
home and left.
pascal
miami, fl
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On 4/4/09 10:26 AM, "Pascal Gademer" pascal@sandbarhopper.com wrote:
In all these years including many runs up and down the east coast, the
closest i've come to a boarding was being approached by a USCG rib at
midnight here on the bay, they rode along side 20' away for a minute, asked
me where i came from and where i was heading. They wished me a nice ride
home and left.
And I am thinking of getting my Boarding Reports bound into a book!
Bob
Robert Calhoun Smith, Jr. now in DC
MV MARY KATHRYN
1977 Hatteras 58 LRC
Lying the JibRoom
Marsh Harbour, Abaco
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