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Xantrex Freedom 25 Charger

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Marty Campanella
Sat, Apr 23, 2011 8:57 PM

Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix.

I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified sine
wave inverter and 135 amp charger.  The charger has stopped operating.

Don't know if I can find someone to look at it here in the Caribbean but
even if I could the question is whether it is worth spending any money on.

If I have to ship it back to the United States for service it would be too
expensive. It weighs 65 lbs.

I am thinking of just buying a Magnum MS2000 - This will be a 2nd inverter
charger on the boat as I currently have a Prosine 2000.

I can carry the Magnum 2000 as checked baggage and avoid the freight charges
of the larger 65 lb units.

Any thoughts?? Any suggestions as to a pure sine wave inverter other than
Magnum?

Marty Campanella

Bay Pelican KK42

Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix. I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified sine wave inverter and 135 amp charger. The charger has stopped operating. Don't know if I can find someone to look at it here in the Caribbean but even if I could the question is whether it is worth spending any money on. If I have to ship it back to the United States for service it would be too expensive. It weighs 65 lbs. I am thinking of just buying a Magnum MS2000 - This will be a 2nd inverter charger on the boat as I currently have a Prosine 2000. I can carry the Magnum 2000 as checked baggage and avoid the freight charges of the larger 65 lb units. Any thoughts?? Any suggestions as to a pure sine wave inverter other than Magnum? Marty Campanella Bay Pelican KK42
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Mark Richter
Sun, Apr 24, 2011 5:52 PM

Marty,
The Xantrex Freedom inverters tend to fail first in the power relays.  There
are three: for the inverter, the pass-thru, and the charger.  Unfortunately,
they are not installed in sockets, but are soldered directly to the circuit
board.  It is a delicate bit of soldering technique to get them out and a
new one in without damaging the circuit card.  If Zantrex wanted them to be
repairable, they would have soldered in the relay sockets and then pushed a
relay into each socket.  Repair then would be about 10 minutes plus a $10
relay.

You may find someone who is good with a soldering iron to fix it.  I once
repaired my Freedom 1000.  It needed the pass thru and the charger relays
replaced.  I succeeded with the pass-thru but damaged the card next to the
charge relay, so the unit still wouldn't charge.  But I don't do a lot of
sodering and my skill is not great.

You won't go far wrong with the Magnum inverters.  I've installed 3 or 4,
and all the owners are very pleased with them.  Ebay often has some good
deals.

Mark Richter,  Ortona, FL on the Okeechobee Waterway
"Winnie the Pooh" 46' troller-yacht

Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix.
I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified
sine
wave inverter and 135 amp charger.  The charger has stopped operating.

Don't know if I can find someone to look at it here in the Caribbean but
even if I could the question is whether it is worth spending any money on.

I am thinking of just buying a Magnum MS2000 - This will be a 2nd inverter
charger on the boat as I currently have a Prosine 2000.

I can carry the Magnum 2000 as checked baggage and avoid the freight
charges
of the larger 65 lb units.

Marty, The Xantrex Freedom inverters tend to fail first in the power relays. There are three: for the inverter, the pass-thru, and the charger. Unfortunately, they are not installed in sockets, but are soldered directly to the circuit board. It is a delicate bit of soldering technique to get them out and a new one in without damaging the circuit card. If Zantrex wanted them to be repairable, they would have soldered in the relay sockets and then pushed a relay into each socket. Repair then would be about 10 minutes plus a $10 relay. You may find someone who is good with a soldering iron to fix it. I once repaired my Freedom 1000. It needed the pass thru and the charger relays replaced. I succeeded with the pass-thru but damaged the card next to the charge relay, so the unit still wouldn't charge. But I don't do a lot of sodering and my skill is not great. You won't go far wrong with the Magnum inverters. I've installed 3 or 4, and all the owners are very pleased with them. Ebay often has some good deals. Mark Richter, Ortona, FL on the Okeechobee Waterway "Winnie the Pooh" 46' troller-yacht > Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix. > I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified > sine > wave inverter and 135 amp charger. The charger has stopped operating. > > Don't know if I can find someone to look at it here in the Caribbean but > even if I could the question is whether it is worth spending any money on. > > I am thinking of just buying a Magnum MS2000 - This will be a 2nd inverter > charger on the boat as I currently have a Prosine 2000. > > I can carry the Magnum 2000 as checked baggage and avoid the freight > charges > of the larger 65 lb units.
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Chuck Shipley
Sun, Apr 24, 2011 6:53 PM

Marty,

I had a Freedom 25 repaired in Trinidad, but it was done by replacing a
whole board.  Not cheap.

--Chuck Shipley
Tusen Takk II
KK48 North Sea

On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Marty Campanella baypelican@gmail.comwrote:

Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix.

I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified
sine
wave inverter and 135 amp charger.  The charger has stopped operating.

Don't know if I can find someone to look at it here in the Caribbean but
even if I could the question is whether it is worth spending any money on.

If I have to ship it back to the United States for service it would be too
expensive. It weighs 65 lbs.

I am thinking of just buying a Magnum MS2000 - This will be a 2nd inverter
charger on the boat as I currently have a Prosine 2000.

I can carry the Magnum 2000 as checked baggage and avoid the freight
charges
of the larger 65 lb units.

Any thoughts?? Any suggestions as to a pure sine wave inverter other than
Magnum?

Marty Campanella

Bay Pelican KK42


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Marty, I had a Freedom 25 repaired in Trinidad, but it was done by replacing a whole board. Not cheap. --Chuck Shipley Tusen Takk II KK48 North Sea On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Marty Campanella <baypelican@gmail.com>wrote: > Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix. > > > > I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified > sine > wave inverter and 135 amp charger. The charger has stopped operating. > > > > Don't know if I can find someone to look at it here in the Caribbean but > even if I could the question is whether it is worth spending any money on. > > If I have to ship it back to the United States for service it would be too > expensive. It weighs 65 lbs. > > > > I am thinking of just buying a Magnum MS2000 - This will be a 2nd inverter > charger on the boat as I currently have a Prosine 2000. > > > > I can carry the Magnum 2000 as checked baggage and avoid the freight > charges > of the larger 65 lb units. > > > > Any thoughts?? Any suggestions as to a pure sine wave inverter other than > Magnum? > > > > Marty Campanella > > Bay Pelican KK42 > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. > -- --
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Steve Sipe
Sun, Apr 24, 2011 7:19 PM

On 4/23/2011 4:57 PM, Marty Campanella wrote:

Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix.

I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified sine
wave inverter and 135 amp charger.  The charger has stopped operating.

<snip> I'm following this thread too, since my Freedom 30 has been misbehaving, taking longer than normal to switch over from pass-thru to invert, particularly when the charge cycle has been shortened and is charging more than about 40 amps.

I read with particular interest Mark's post because 1) he knows his
stuff and 2) I recall seeing elsewhere that the Freedom's weak point is
the transfer relays, which mine seems to be ailing with.

My plan is to retire it as inverter, but keep it functioning as a
charger, and add a Magnum MS2812 to take over the inverting, and
supplement the charging. I believe I can set up the Freedom with a
manually entered high battery temp that will allow it to continue to
bulk charge in parallel with the new MS, but will cause it to drop off
at a lower voltage when it changes over to absorb, thereby preventing
conflicts of which charger will be regulating the final stages of charging.

The biggest problem is of course where to mount it. Need a bigger boat!

--
Steve Sipe
Solo 4303 /"Maerin"/
Spanish Wells, Bahamas

On 4/23/2011 4:57 PM, Marty Campanella wrote: > Question is it worth even looking into how much it would cost to fix. > > > > I have a Freedom 25 charger from 2003 (white model) which is a modified sine > wave inverter and 135 amp charger. The charger has stopped operating. <snip> I'm following this thread too, since my Freedom 30 has been misbehaving, taking longer than normal to switch over from pass-thru to invert, particularly when the charge cycle has been shortened and is charging more than about 40 amps. I read with particular interest Mark's post because 1) he knows his stuff and 2) I recall seeing elsewhere that the Freedom's weak point is the transfer relays, which mine seems to be ailing with. My plan is to retire it as inverter, but keep it functioning as a charger, and add a Magnum MS2812 to take over the inverting, and supplement the charging. I believe I can set up the Freedom with a manually entered high battery temp that will allow it to continue to bulk charge in parallel with the new MS, but will cause it to drop off at a lower voltage when it changes over to absorb, thereby preventing conflicts of which charger will be regulating the final stages of charging. The biggest problem is of course where to mount it. Need a bigger boat! -- Steve Sipe Solo 4303 /"Maerin"/ Spanish Wells, Bahamas