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Re: [PUP] Top five passagemakers

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Dave Cooper
Wed, Oct 24, 2007 10:41 PM

Actually Scott this is one case where touching the wheel is required. To do
this you put the wheel over to the right apply reverse to the inboard prop
and forward to the outboard prop. Assuming you have counter rotating props
the boat should move dead sideways to port if you have the throttles set
right. Versa vica to go to stbd.

With this technique you can put a 60' twin in a 65 ft slip without spring
lines or other more normal manoovers.

It is especially effective with large catamarans. You can't turn a 60' cat
in less than 85 ft or so as the diagonal length will get you every time. So
walking them in or out of slips is the norm.

You can't do this if the props don't have a rudder behind them.

What you are referring really won't keep the bow undercontrol if there's any
breeze or current.

In any case with twins I'd sure want a rudder directly behind each of them
;-)

As always YMMV...

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58

Actually Scott this is one case where touching the wheel is required. To do this you put the wheel over to the right apply reverse to the inboard prop and forward to the outboard prop. Assuming you have counter rotating props the boat should move dead sideways to port if you have the throttles set right. Versa vica to go to stbd. With this technique you can put a 60' twin in a 65 ft slip without spring lines or other more normal manoovers. It is especially effective with large catamarans. You can't turn a 60' cat in less than 85 ft or so as the diagonal length will get you every time. So walking them in or out of slips is the norm. You can't do this if the props don't have a rudder behind them. What you are referring really won't keep the bow undercontrol if there's any breeze or current. In any case with twins I'd sure want a rudder directly behind each of them ;-) As always YMMV... Dave & Nancy Swan Song Roughwater 58
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Scott Bulger
Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:29 AM

Well I can't argue with you, but all I can do is reflect on my years charter
boat fishing in FL.  I never got to run the boats, so again, I'll defer to
your experience.

I vividly remember the skippers using nothing but gears to maneuver their
boats in and out of their slips.  Never touched the wheel, no bow thruster,
60'+ boats.  It's probably an example of you make what you learn work, kind
of like cutting the ends off the ham ;').  Anyway, my point was, for a
coastal cruiser that N46 with twins can be a very compelling value (because
they aren't highly sought after the price reflects it's unique
configuration).  Just an opinion, people asking for a refund should line up!

Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA

Well I can't argue with you, but all I can do is reflect on my years charter boat fishing in FL. I never got to run the boats, so again, I'll defer to your experience. I vividly remember the skippers using nothing but gears to maneuver their boats in and out of their slips. Never touched the wheel, no bow thruster, 60'+ boats. It's probably an example of you make what you learn work, kind of like cutting the ends off the ham ;'). Anyway, my point was, for a coastal cruiser that N46 with twins can be a very compelling value (because they aren't highly sought after the price reflects it's unique configuration). Just an opinion, people asking for a refund should line up! Scott Bulger, Alanui, N40II, Seattle WA