Re: TWL: VHF License
In a message dated 1/16/01 7:05:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
branchkw@bellsouth.net writes:
<< We were told last night that upon entering Canada we must have a VHF
license. >>
Karl and Phyllis,
Canada waived this requirement around a year ago. The information you heard
is out of date. It was once necessary to have a VHF license in Canada just as
it was once in the US. When the US dropped the requirement, the Canadians
followed suit a couple of years later.
Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader "Angelina"
One still needs it for international waters.
Maurice Marwood
aepmem@bahamas.net.bs
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Subject: Re: TWL: VHF License
In a message dated 1/16/01 7:05:44 AM Eastern
Standard Time,
branchkw@bellsouth.net writes:
<< We were told last night that upon entering
Canada we must have a VHF
license. >>
Karl and Phyllis,
Canada waived this requirement around a year ago.
The information you heard
is out of date. It was once necessary to have a
VHF license in Canada just as
it was once in the US. When the US dropped the
requirement, the Canadians
followed suit a couple of years later.
Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader "Angelina"
Sorry to advise Canada did not drop the requirement for Marine radio there
were changes and now either vessel (mobile) or operator licensing
(restricted Certificate) is required if you are a resident.
You may have been thinking of CB license which was dropped.
In most cases if you & your vessel are licensed in your country of origin
you should be OK.
If any one needs more info contact me dirst with your city identification.
Austin Gilbert
Colour me Gone Lake Ontario
(SNIP)
From: AlorMaria@aol.com
Subject: Re: TWL: VHF License
In a message dated 1/16/01 7:05:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
branchkw@bellsouth.net writes:
<< We were told last night that upon entering Canada we must have a VHF
license. >>
Karl and Phyllis,
I hear this information about frequently, BUT, I would sure like to know of
a Canadian web page where I can check it out. Whenever I assume something
to be true, I get burned. 'Cause, if I need to get a license for this
summer's cruising, I gotta get cracking.
Ben
Ben Lewis and Mary Wilson
"BenGeM" 34' 1981 CHB Trawler
Poulsbo Yacht Club, Poulsbo, WA
blewis@oz.net
At 06:06 AM 1/16/01, AlorMaria@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 1/16/01 7:05:44 AM Eastern Standard Time,
branchkw@bellsouth.net writes:
<< We were told last night that upon entering Canada we must have a VHF
license. >>
Karl and Phyllis,
Canada waived this requirement around a year ago. The information you heard
is out of date. It was once necessary to have a VHF license in Canada just as
it was once in the US. When the US dropped the requirement, the Canadians
followed suit a couple of years later.
Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader "Angelina"
Ben:
I agree that you having been getting mixed info. I was in Canada in 1999
and I went ahead and got a license (also for the Bahamas). I did a little
quick Internet research and here is what I came up with:
From the FCC site at http://www.fcc.gov/wtb/marine/ship.html
Radio licensing. Some commercial vessels sailing domestically, and all
vessels sailing internationally must still be licensed by the FCC. They
invite questions at mayday@fcc.gov (no kidding)
From the Canadians at http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/boating/us.html#fcc
A foreign boater who wish to legally transmit using their VHF radio in
Canada requires a valid ship's license plus an operator license. Call the
the American FCC toll-free 1-888-CALLFCC in the U.S.A. or the Canadian
government for current information about VHF regulations.
Foreign visitors who wish to legally transmit using their marine radio in
Canada require a valid ship's license plus an operator license. U.S.
boaters should read the FCC rules for VHF radios. U.S. Federal
Communications Commission (FCC) and the Canadian government have recently
created exemptions for VHF marine radio licenses for radios used in home
waters, there are international treaties governing radio usage outside home
borders that boaters must still abide by.
I don't think the Canadian site is official but they do list this information:
Industry Canada
Spectrum Management - Marine Radio Licenses
473 Albert St, 4th Floor,
Ottawa, ON, K1R 5B4
Phone 613-998-3693 FAX 613-998-5919
Info line (Ottawa, Ontario): 613-941-0222
Belleville District: 1-800-267-2859
It looks to me like you still need a license but if I were you I would
e-mail the FCC and call the Canadians before I spent the $110. Let us know
how you make out.
Frank Burrows fburrows@compuserve.com 1979 43' Viking MY Piney
Narrows Chesapeake Bay
At 07:39 PM 01/16/01 -0800, you wrote:
I hear this information about frequently, BUT, I would sure like to know
of a Canadian web page where I can check it out. Whenever I assume
something to be true, I get burned. 'Cause, if I need to get a license
for this summer's cruising, I gotta get cracking.
Ben
Ben:
I found some more stuff. Here is an official Canadian Site
http://strategis.ic.gc.ca/sc_mrksv/spectrum/engdoc/spect1.html
Do a search for "marine" and there is more confusing stuff. It appears that
Canadian Boaters who travel to the US are no longer required to have a
ship's license. However Canadians (and I guess US also) are still required
to get an Operator's License. There is also mention of exemptions for
countries who have an reciprocal agreements with Canada but does not say
who that is.
Another thing that is not clear is who tells a US citizen in Canada if he
needs a license or not. Is the FCC or the Canadians?? The FCC is the one
who says we need a license.
It has been stated before, but I reiterate: There are TWO (2) items
to consider:
One is the ROC or Restricted Operator's Certificate that you must
have to transmit on marine VHF. This requirement is still in force
and there can be heavy fines for violations.
The other is the Station License which has been dropped for small
pleasure boats.
So: one is a certificate to be able to operate, issued to a PERSON,
very much like a drivers license is to operate a car and it requires
a short course and government supervised, written test. Once issued,
it is for life of that person.
The other, the station license is for the equipment i.e. the actual
VHF transceiver. (following the above analogy, it would be the
registration/license for a car complete with license plates). It is
that requirement only that has recently been removed for pleasure
craft in Canada.
All clear now like the fog at Peggy's Cove, eh?
George of Scaramouche in Canada who used to be a Power Squadron
Instructor and knows about those things <BGN>
On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, George Geist wrote:
So: one is a certificate to be able to operate, issued to a PERSON,
very much like a drivers license is to operate a car and it requires
a short course and government supervised, written test. Once issued,
it is for life of that person.
Short course in my case meant the ability to write the check to FCC.
Nothing else.