Hi:
It's taken a few months to get LabVIEW Home version working so now I'm looking for a good way to control HP-IB instruments.
I tried to get a computer built that would run DOS, WIN 3.1, WIN 98, WIN XP and WIN 7 (NI does not yet fully support WIN
10), but the required motherboard is not longer made so I'm looking for an adapter that runs from LAN or a USB port.
NI has the GPIB-USB-HS+ (their latest version) so the prior version GPIB-USB-HS is available for under $200.
Can anyone comment on what's available?
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I have successfully used an Agilent 82357B USB adapter - there are plenty
on eBay from Chinese sellers...
I got NI Visa to talk to Agilent, er, Keysight IO Libraries and access a
3456A attached to the 82357B. That's the simplified version... the 82357B
was on a remote system over a WiFiI link and the Agilent IO Libraries took
care of the details. It was painful. Don't try this. At one point, it
managed to access the wrong device on the remote system! There was only
the 3456A on GPIB and a 34461A on ethernet, but it got them mixed up.
However, I'm not sure that NI Visa on its own with an NI adapter is less
painful. It refused to find devices after I accidentally deleted the name
of a serial port in NI Max (double click the name, hit delete, click
somewhere else; easy to do when you are trying to get rid of a phantom COM3
that turned out to be a software modem). Attempts to refresh the device
list put "Visa Error" in the device list. Clicking on it gave a useless
message about the configuration being incorrect, but no real way of fixing
the problem. I'm told uninstalling/reinstalling NI Visa is usually
required.
For under $200, I think I'd go for the NI USB adapter - hopefully it would
come with support.
Good Luck, Orin.
On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Brooke Clarke brooke@pacific.net wrote:
Hi:
It's taken a few months to get LabVIEW Home version working so now I'm
looking for a good way to control HP-IB instruments.
I tried to get a computer built that would run DOS, WIN 3.1, WIN 98, WIN
XP and WIN 7 (NI does not yet fully support WIN 10), but the required
motherboard is not longer made so I'm looking for an adapter that runs from
LAN or a USB port.
NI has the GPIB-USB-HS+ (their latest version) so the prior version
GPIB-USB-HS is available for under $200.
Can anyone comment on what's available?
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Brooke Clarke kirjoitti:
motherboard is not longer made so I'm looking for an adapter that runs
from LAN or a USB port.
NI has the GPIB-USB-HS+ (their latest version) so the prior version
GPIB-USB-HS is available for under $200.
Can anyone comment on what's available?
I have this:
http://prologix.biz/gpib-ethernet-controller.html
There's also USB version available, but personally I perfer ethernet
because it's so much better when instruments are accessed from multiple
computers. It's always connected on the network so it's always ready
when needed, without plugging anything etc.
Never used it with LabView but according to websites it should be supported.
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:58:41 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote:
so I'm looking for an adapter that runs
from LAN or a USB port.
Can anyone comment on what's available?
Hi Brooke
Afaik the Agilent USB GPIB adapter can "Speak VISA on Windows" with
Agilents windows driver. But no VISA support for Agilents under Linux, as
Agilent doesn't make drivers for linux :-(
See this Agilent PDF
http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5990-3731EN.pdf?cmpid=1273CN
And have a look on *bay for :
"Agilent 82357B USB-GPIB Interface"
According to this thread , even the "real ones" are clones (work ok)
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flood-of-new-agilent-82357b-gpib-
usb-adaptors-on-ebay-the-real-deal/
I have a Beiming and an Agilent (prob a clone) , both works fine with
liunx-gpib.
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I have both a chinese clone 82357b and two NI GPIB-USB-HS. If you will
write your own software for aging test-equipment, my experience is that a
clean NI solution with GPIB-USB-HS and NI 488.2 is a lot less painful
than trying to get Agilent GPIB to play nice with the NI software-stack.
Speaking for myself I could never get it to work satisfactorily on Windows
(never bothered to try another OS), just lots of weird unexplained
problems; sometimes working, sometimes hanging, sometimes requiring the
sacrifice of a chicken. Might be the chinese clone adapter, though, I never
tried a genuine Agilent 82357. Come to think of it, the NI's came out of
china as well, so might also be clones. Just way better clones. :)
Ole
On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 1:16 PM, cfo xnews5@luna.dyndns.dk wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 14:58:41 -0700, Brooke Clarke wrote:
so I'm looking for an adapter that runs
from LAN or a USB port.
Can anyone comment on what's available?
Hi Brooke
Afaik the Agilent USB GPIB adapter can "Speak VISA on Windows" with
Agilents windows driver. But no VISA support for Agilents under Linux, as
Agilent doesn't make drivers for linux :-(
See this Agilent PDF
http://cp.literature.agilent.com/litweb/pdf/5990-3731EN.pdf?cmpid=1273CN
And have a look on *bay for :
"Agilent 82357B USB-GPIB Interface"
According to this thread , even the "real ones" are clones (work ok)
http://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/flood-of-new-agilent-82357b-gpib-
usb-adaptors-on-ebay-the-real-deal/
I have a Beiming and an Agilent (prob a clone) , both works fine with
liunx-gpib.
CFO
Denmark
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Just ordered Ethernet to GPIB from Prologix.biz for $199. They also
have a USB version, which a good friend has and recommends. (Which is
why I bought the ethernet device.....)
Can you share info on labview home and your apps?
Jim
wb4gcs@amsat.org
On 9/10/2015 5:58 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote:
Hi:
It's taken a few months to get LabVIEW Home version working so now I'm
looking for a good way to control HP-IB instruments.
I tried to get a computer built that would run DOS, WIN 3.1, WIN 98,
WIN XP and WIN 7 (NI does not yet fully support WIN 10), but the
required motherboard is not longer made so I'm looking for an adapter
that runs from LAN or a USB port.
NI has the GPIB-USB-HS+ (their latest version) so the prior version
GPIB-USB-HS is available for under $200.
Can anyone comment on what's available?
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Hi Jim:
LabVIEW Home is the full development version that normally sells for thousands of $, but for a home user sells for $50.
There's some watermark on the front panel, but otherwise is fully functional. I haven't got into the Arduino because I
don't like C. LabVIEW is the highest level language I know of (probably because it's a graphical language) and in my
experience very productive. The motivation for NI may be the Maker movement, since the home version shows up on their
Maker Hub web page where they are supporting a number of maker type hardware platforms such as Kinect One, Digilent
Adept FPGAs, AR Drone, LabVIEW dashboard (Android - iPad) Interface, Phillips Hue, Kodi (radio & TV remotes), Leap
Motion Controller, LEGO Mindstorms, LINX language for Arduino & ChipKIT I/O, NEST HVAC, PS4 Controller and the XBox One
Controller with LabVIEW drivers (see maker hub libraries below).
http://www.prc68.com/I/LabVIEW.html
https://www.labviewmakerhub.com/
https://www.labviewmakerhub.com/doku.php?id=libraries:start
By using the SparkFun Inventor's Kit and HP-IB instruments I can combine high level instrumentation and bit banging.
I'm currently learning about gyroscopes and in particular north finding gyros. Leon Foucault (of pendulum fame) is also
the father of gyroscopes in the modern physics sense (he also named them and came up with laws parallel to those of
Newton). A gyro is sort of a pendulum that keeps going round and round. Prior gyro work was more in the toy realm. As
part of that my first project will be for testing DC PM motors where measuring voltage, current and RPM are the key
parameters.
http://www.prc68.com/I/Gyroscopes.html
http://www.prc68.com/I/DCpmMotors.html
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-b7wcJ1xQUBF-lKfMoBPL5qyv-HtMInh
http://www.prc68.com/I/TestingDCMotors.html
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Jim Sanford wrote:
Just ordered Ethernet to GPIB from Prologix.biz for $199. They also have a USB version, which a good friend has and
recommends. (Which is why I bought the ethernet device.....)
Can you share info on labview home and your apps?
Jim
wb4gcs@amsat.org
On 9/10/2015 5:58 PM, Brooke Clarke wrote:
Hi:
It's taken a few months to get LabVIEW Home version working so now I'm looking for a good way to control HP-IB
instruments.
I tried to get a computer built that would run DOS, WIN 3.1, WIN 98, WIN XP and WIN 7 (NI does not yet fully support
WIN 10), but the required motherboard is not longer made so I'm looking for an adapter that runs from LAN or a USB port.
NI has the GPIB-USB-HS+ (their latest version) so the prior version GPIB-USB-HS is available for under $200.
Can anyone comment on what's available?
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 18:10:40 -0400, Jim Sanford wrote:
Just ordered Ethernet to GPIB from Prologix.biz for $199. They also
have a USB version, which a good friend has and recommends. (Which is
why I bought the ethernet device.....)
Can you share info on labview home and your apps?
I don't think that the prologic has VISA drivers available,
and VISA is a pre. req. for getting labview to work.
For Lan : an Agilent Keysight E5810A (or B) LAN/GPIB Gateway ,
*bay 331649591960
Should work under windows (using the Agilent IOsuite drivers) , i haven't
tested though. I'm on linux.
Drivers
http://www.keysight.com/main/software.jspx?
cc=DK&lc=dan&ckey=2175637&nid=-32390.536881830&id=2175637
Bundle
http://www.keysight.com/main/software.jspx?
ckey=1184883&lc=dan&cc=DK&nid=-32390.536881830&id=1184883
Again no Linux support due to Agilents "Windows only support"
I know that ICS ie. *bay 351507029911
Makes some Agilent compatible Lan-GPIB boxes , but can't remember the
excact model numbers.
The NI LAN-GPIB boxes *bay 221878176044 , should also be considered , and
AFAIK the only choice for labview under linux.
Make sure the adapter you get, still have labview support , and that the
drivers are available (downloadable).
CFO
Denmark
On 09/11/2015 01:07 AM, Esa Heikkinen wrote:
I have this:
http://prologix.biz/gpib-ethernet-controller.html
I tried it, but didn't like for my use.
If you use SRQ interrupts to waken your code, this device is unusable if
that's your programming paradigm.
"poll this full refund, prologix! and while you're at it, get acquainted
with the POSIX I/O standard."
It brought back bad memories of using Galil motor controllers over a
socket. EEEK!
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