I think not. It seems about the only feasable conversion for 2100Fs is
into a door stop or book end.

WWVB is a CW carrier tracking system. LORAN is a differential pulse
spacing system.

-John

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Won't work completely different. I built a very simple loran c sim and the
docs were available online. But just checked the N4IQT links on yahoo and it
looks like the infos gone.
The sim allows you to at least the 2100f as a very nice phase comparator
between two sources.
You have the canadian 59300 chain available for I think 26 more days.
I have not fired my 2100f up to check.
Maybe tomorrow.
Regards

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 6:50 PM, J. Forster jfor@quik.com wrote:

Thanks will in a bit

On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Stanley Reynolds <
stanley_reynolds@yahoo.com> wrote:

Stanley,
The new link does indeed work.
Thanks

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 8:59 AM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

I'll be, I missed it US and Canadian Loran C shut down 1 Aug.. So either you
pick up Europe or build a loran c sim.
Regards

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

I'll be, I missed it US and Canadian Loran C shut down 1 Aug.. So either you
pick up Europe or build a loran c sim.
Regards

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 2:13 PM, paul swed paulswedb@gmail.com wrote:

That would explain why my 2100T hasn't worked since I got back
from vacation.

When the US chains shut down, the commerce department said it would
continue those stations that serviced Canada (because of treaties),
until November 2010.  I guess Canada decided it didn't need that long.

I tried during the deliberation process to put some input into the system,
but it was refused because I only used the frequency and timing services.
The powers that be were only interested in how shutting down Loran would
affect the transportation industry.

I wonder if they had a clue about how many small businesses they were going
to impact when they shut down?

-Chuck Harris

paul swed wrote:

Don't think any of it mattered.
The goal was to save the operating costs to show that we are thrifty bunch
in government.
I was caught a bit off guard I did check my references/standards in late
July even early august. Had looked for notices and missed them.
Would have taken final checks.
Oh well. I am looking forward to listening for Europe and perhaps even
getting a lock in the winter. It simply will not be as it was anyhow. Long
path distortions.
At least the austrons can be used as very very nice frequency comparators.
Regards.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Chuck Harris cfharris@erols.com wrote:

Whether they realize or not isn't the issue. They simply don't give a
crap. They don't have to. They are the government.

-John

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Maybe we should ship all the old Austrons and other LORAN stuff to the
Chairpol in charge of the Coast Guard, collect.

-John

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I think I agree with John they don't care.

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 4:40 PM, J. Forster jfor@quik.com wrote:

My understanding is that the shutdown was a purely political decision.
USCG couldn't tell the politicians that "people will die" so it was a
savings to be achieved.  Given the shutdown costs it will take a few
years to break even - so it's actually more expensive in the short run.

I heard this weekend that they have already demo'd the Boise City tower
because no other agency wanted it.

On 10/4/2010 3:37 PM, J. Forster wrote:

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On 10/04/2010 11:29 PM, Oz-in-DFW wrote:

The Alaska tower downing video was nice... pass the chips, will ya?

Oh, I do care... but can't really do anything about it, so I guess I
just will have to enjoy the ride like the rest of us.

I'll keep fooling around with this GPS thingie while we still have it.

Cheers,
Magnus

There was a post a couple of days after the shutdown that they had blown
up an antenna tower, as I remember.

-John

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Yes that was in alaska it was on the news. 1200ft down in a few seconds.
They blew it up because it has a very grave structural issue.
I suspect given a drop of time that will be the fate of all the towers.
Hmmm now whats happening with those nasty HP Cesiums??

On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:53 PM, J. Forster jfor@quik.com wrote:

NOW THAT IS AN INTERESTING THOUGHT!

What the government has done by this order consists of a taking
of property.  We should be able to file for compensation for the
loss of use of all of our expensive timing equipment.

They got around that issue with televisions by giving rebates on
set top converters.  To get the rebate you had to sign a form...
that's always a bad sign.

-Chuck Harris

J. Forster wrote: