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In response to Beverly's Sharpie story...

CG
Carrier Graphics
Wed, Feb 9, 2011 6:45 PM

In response to Beverly's Sharpie story...

Yes- I understand how we all get upset when we see the workings of raw nature
first hand. But we also must respect it for what it is, and that's just how life
survives.

When this question comes up, I always think back to when our class in school
visited a slaughter house. I was so upset after, I couldn't eat any meat product
for months. Then I slowly gravitated back to a normal diet once again. We all
must eat, but also recognize that almost every living thing is both a predator
and prey, which depend on other living things to stay alive. The Jay will eat
living insects, birds and bird eggs. The Sharpie will eat the Jay. The Owl,
larger hawks and parasites will eat the Sharpie, and that's the way it is for
all of life. We must all eat to survive. The only thing different with us humans
is -

We let others do the hunting and killing, and do it out of our sight and mind -
thus sparing ourselves from the fact that - yes, we to are still a predator.

Now off to lunch of that big chicken salad sandwich with L & T on whole wheat
bread!

Paul Carrier

From: Beverly Propen bpropen@gmail.com
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: [CT Birds] sharpie having early dinner

2/8  Orange backyard
At 4:35PM a female sharp shinned hawk landed under my bird feeders with a
blue jay in her talons.  I am kind of squeemish, and my husband wanted to
chase it off, but I told him that the blue jay probably wouldn't survive,
and the sharpie needed to eat as well. But the sharpie took its sweet time
taking apart the blue jay, sitting under my feeders for almost 10 minutes,
then it carried  the remains of the blue jay into an evergreen.
In previous posts, I would have described the sharpie as the villain and the
blue jay as the victim, but I have learned from others' comments that this
is nature.  I just wish she would have taken her catch somewhere else
sooner to consume it.
this could be the same sharpie that I saw last year (with help on the ID
from Jim Zipp and Brian) eating a common grackle.
BevPropen, Orange

In response to Beverly's Sharpie story... Yes- I understand how we all get upset when we see the workings of raw nature first hand. But we also must respect it for what it is, and that's just how life survives. When this question comes up, I always think back to when our class in school visited a slaughter house. I was so upset after, I couldn't eat any meat product for months. Then I slowly gravitated back to a normal diet once again. We all must eat, but also recognize that almost every living thing is both a predator and prey, which depend on other living things to stay alive. The Jay will eat living insects, birds and bird eggs. The Sharpie will eat the Jay. The Owl, larger hawks and parasites will eat the Sharpie, and that's the way it is for all of life. We must all eat to survive. The only thing different with us humans is - We let others do the hunting and killing, and do it out of our sight and mind - thus sparing ourselves from the fact that - yes, we to are still a predator. Now off to lunch of that big chicken salad sandwich with L & T on whole wheat bread! Paul Carrier From: Beverly Propen <bpropen@gmail.com> To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org Subject: [CT Birds] sharpie having early dinner 2/8 Orange backyard At 4:35PM a female sharp shinned hawk landed under my bird feeders with a blue jay in her talons. I am kind of squeemish, and my husband wanted to chase it off, but I told him that the blue jay probably wouldn't survive, and the sharpie needed to eat as well. But the sharpie took its sweet time taking apart the blue jay, sitting under my feeders for almost 10 minutes, then it carried the remains of the blue jay into an evergreen. In previous posts, I would have described the sharpie as the villain and the blue jay as the victim, but I have learned from others' comments that this is nature. I just wish she would have taken her catch somewhere else sooner to consume it. this could be the same sharpie that I saw last year (with help on the ID from Jim Zipp and Brian) eating a common grackle. BevPropen, Orange
JP
Jim Pfeifer
Wed, Feb 9, 2011 7:55 PM

In short, it's a "Circle of Life" kind of thing.  The way I look at it is pretty simple - What is worse, seeing an accipiter die slowly of starvation or a seeing smaller bird getting folded into the food chain.  Although neither is nice to see, and the smaller bird often suffers a pretty brutal end, I say the former scenario is far more disturbing.  Heck, I've more than once seen Jays eating the eggs and hatchlings of Robins in my yard.  Not that this topic is species specific, but I have to say that Jay's are by no means innocent bystanders.....

Jim

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In short, it's a "Circle of Life" kind of thing. The way I look at it is pretty simple - What is worse, seeing an accipiter die slowly of starvation or a seeing smaller bird getting folded into the food chain. Although neither is nice to see, and the smaller bird often suffers a pretty brutal end, I say the former scenario is far more disturbing. Heck, I've more than once seen Jays eating the eggs and hatchlings of Robins in my yard. Not that this topic is species specific, but I have to say that Jay's are by no means innocent bystanders..... Jim James L. Pfeifer, LEP Senior Project Manager Environmental Resources Management (ERM) 77 Hartland Street, Suite 300 East Hartford, Connecticut 06108 860-466-8515 - Office 860-466-8501- Fax 860-930-7808- Cell ________________________________ This electronic mail message may contain information which is (a) LEGALLY PRIVILEGED, PROPRIETARY IN NATURE, OR OTHERWISE PROTECTED BY LAW FROM DISCLOSURE, and (b) intended only for the use of the Addressee (s) names herein. If you are not the Addressee(s), or the person responsible for delivering this to the Addressee (s), you are hereby notified that reading, copying, or distributing this message is prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please contact us immediately at (617) 646-7800 and take the steps necessary to delete the message completely from your computer system. Thank you, Please visit ERM's web site: http://www.erm.com