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Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

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EWKehren@aol.com
Sun, Feb 26, 2012 10:53 PM

Magnus
My beef is that if you advertise NEW it should be NEW. I caught him once
before and ebay made him change the listing. This time he had two listings
one  new and one used. I checked with him and paid extra for NEW and got the
most  banged up unit ever. All from the same stack. Finally got him to agree
to pay  for return shipping he wanted it back and I can show you
correspondence where he  states he can sell it for $ 60+ and when I gave a negative
review he refused to  pay unless I give him a 5 star+. Extortion look forward
what ebay will say. All  I can say is stay away from ggg*fitting, not like
some of the other ones. Others  cooperate according to some list members,
Bert Kehren

In a message dated 2/26/2012 5:22:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org writes:

Hi Bert  and all,

Very few occasions items like we talk about is really  pristine, I expect
it to be used and only try to judge about how much  milage it has. Most
of the dumpster diver level re-circulation folks has  low knowledge, and
some excel and actually has a clue, but if only the  pictures is their
own and show some reasonable level of degradation and  then I judge if I
think there is a fair price or not for what roughly is  being provided.

So far I have not been scammed very hard. Most of the  stuff has been
within the expected level, but all that comes from makeing  a decision of
what to expect and what price is fair for that  expectation.

Cheers,
Magnus

On 02/26/2012 05:33 PM,  EWKehren@aol.com wrote:

Pete
Thanks for the link. Now it  explains where they come from and what
condition they are in. Again I  like to warn against ggg*fitting that

sell Morion

as NEW and did sell  FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW
back to them so  someone will get it if you continue to buy from them.

They

agreed to  reimburse me for shipping but as you see below now threaten me

if I

do  not give them a positive review.
Look at shipping  cost some of it is off the top! It is time to take a
breather and we  will se a drop in prices. There is a limited market and

we are

at  least 50%

"We in the description, indicate the is  used.
We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund  to you, and

pay

for shipping costs  $13.17
If you don't  change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17  to
you!!
To trouble you, I'm so sorry!"

I will not change  my feedback ggg are crooks and they know it. Be
carefully, there are  other choices.
Bert  Kehren

In a message dated  2/26/2012 1:42:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
bell.peter@gmail.com  writes:

I  suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying  stuff from Taobao and
just  reselling it.  For example, this  appears to be the original
source of  the FE-5680As which were  supplied with the OCXO and socket
(although he  seems to have run  out of OCXOs  now)
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12204039399  - the price  is
interesting, too - 90 RMB (about $15). Of course,  they generally  won't
ship to addresses outside  China.

The bit of his website  dealing with oscillators  is interesting, too
(in Chinese, but lots of  photos) - I suspect  some of the other stuff
being sold on ebay is being  sourced  from  him:

http://www.dz98.com/an.htm

Regards,

Pete  Bell


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Magnus My beef is that if you advertise NEW it should be NEW. I caught him once before and ebay made him change the listing. This time he had two listings one new and one used. I checked with him and paid extra for NEW and got the most banged up unit ever. All from the same stack. Finally got him to agree to pay for return shipping he wanted it back and I can show you correspondence where he states he can sell it for $ 60+ and when I gave a negative review he refused to pay unless I give him a 5 star+. Extortion look forward what ebay will say. All I can say is stay away from ggg*fitting, not like some of the other ones. Others cooperate according to some list members, Bert Kehren In a message dated 2/26/2012 5:22:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org writes: Hi Bert and all, Very few occasions items like we talk about is really pristine, I expect it to be used and only try to judge about how much milage it has. Most of the dumpster diver level re-circulation folks has low knowledge, and some excel and actually has a clue, but if only the pictures is their own and show some reasonable level of degradation and then I judge if I think there is a fair price or not for what roughly is being provided. So far I have not been scammed very hard. Most of the stuff has been within the expected level, but all that comes from makeing a decision of what to expect and what price is fair for that expectation. Cheers, Magnus On 02/26/2012 05:33 PM, EWKehren@aol.com wrote: > Pete > Thanks for the link. Now it explains where they come from and what > condition they are in. Again I like to warn against ggg*fitting that sell Morion > as NEW and did sell FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW > back to them so someone will get it if you continue to buy from them. They > agreed to reimburse me for shipping but as you see below now threaten me if I > do not give them a positive review. > Look at shipping cost some of it is off the top! It is time to take a > breather and we will se a drop in prices. There is a limited market and we are > at least 50% > > "We in the description, indicate the is used. > We have to make the best possible treatment, a full refund to you, and pay > for shipping costs $13.17 > If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't pay $13.17 to > you!! > To trouble you, I'm so sorry!" > > I will not change my feedback ggg are crooks and they know it. Be > carefully, there are other choices. > Bert Kehren > > > > > > In a message dated 2/26/2012 1:42:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, > bell.peter@gmail.com writes: > > I suspect a lot of the ebay sellers are buying stuff from Taobao and > just reselling it. For example, this appears to be the original > source of the FE-5680As which were supplied with the OCXO and socket > (although he seems to have run out of OCXOs now) > http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12204039399 - the price is > interesting, too - 90 RMB (about $15). Of course, they generally won't > ship to addresses outside China. > > The bit of his website dealing with oscillators is interesting, too > (in Chinese, but lots of photos) - I suspect some of the other stuff > being sold on ebay is being sourced from him: > > http://www.dz98.com/an.htm > > Regards, > > Pete Bell > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.