Randy, They're probably talking about Tommy's last visit there. I have it on good authority that's he is the poster child for "scruffy". Fred Tug 44 ---------------------------------------- From: "Randy Pickelmann" <rwp_48@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 9:56 AM To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: GL: Venice Free Dock to Close x--- snip ---x Also, I really don't know of any "scruffy" live-aboards anchored there. Regards, Randy Pickelmann MORNING STAR lying in Clearwater, FL www.morningstar.talkspot.com __________